Yamadori oak trunk chop question

so you can collect oaks in the summer?
No., well, probably not. Different species, climate complicate things tremendously here in the states. While Europe has three or four species of oaks, with the English Oak (quercus robur) the most common. North America has literally dozens of oak species--more than anywhere else on the planet.. What works for one, probably isn't going to work for another. For instance, I would not use what works for collection of a California "live" oak species, with a southern U.S. "live" oak, as they are completely different species in completely different climates.
 
Damn, I was 2 weeks into bonsai when I started this thread, none of the trees survived :D
Lot of other good things have happened since then :)
 
@Bvangorp - you are from Chicago area, I am from the northern burbs, along the lake. The 6 or 7 oaks locally native are not very good for bonsai, really not worth collecting, UNLESS you find a really cool, interesting twisted well barked up trunk that bends and curves in the first 6 inches and is larger in diameter than a beer can. Usually if you find one like this, its roots go too deep to consider digging.

The bur oak is the local oak that has the best bark. The fissured bark of a mature bur oak is quite nice. I am raising a few whips from seed, bending and twisting them up in the hopes that in 20 or 30 years they will have both interesting shapes and good fissured bark. Right now leaves are HUGE. I believe they will come down in size as the branches develop ramification. Large leaves is a major issue when trying to work with oaks.

The second most dramatic bark of the greater Chicagoland area oaks is Quercus bicolor - the swamp white oak. This one might be more adaptable to growing in a pot and does have much more normal size leaves compared to bur oak. Definitely worth looking for in terms of collecting and or worth experimenting with as a 10 to 20 year "grow your own" project. It it fair fast growing for an oak.

If you are going to collect, late winter is one option. IF YOU LIVE NEAR THE LAKE - AUGUST is a good month. But only if you are in range of "Lake Effect" micro-climate. If you are not sure, give August a try on less valuable stock. But late winter or early spring is probably best collecting time.

Great thing about using native oaks, winter protection is ZERO. I set the pots on the ground for the winter, that is it. No mulch, nada. Bur oak is just fine. I don't have other oaks, haven't tried them yet, but I would assume the same. All local collected trees, I just set on the ground. No mulch, no trips to the well house, no burying things, to back ache, no head aches.

I do slip them out of fancy pots and put them in plastic pots. As freeze thaw can break even fine pottery.
 
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@Leo in N E Illinois sweet thank you! I would love to get a bur oak. I will have to start the search for one. Zero winter protection is right up my ally ahah!
 
Seedlings are easy to get from places like Musser's tree farm, and other forestry related nurseries. Seed from Sheffields is always an option.



Not many places you can dig in IL. There is the possibility of digging along rail road right of ways, but you will never get permission, it technically is illegal, though rarely policed. Most "wild places" are protected or private. If you know a farmer, ask to dig in the fence rows. But remember farmers almost always have shotguns, usually with them in the tractor, or pickup. Necessary for varmint control. When we owned a farm, the sheriff mentioned we should plan on a 20 to 35 minute response time given our location, then a long pause of silence. The implication was we needed to be prepared to "handle things" for that period, which is one of several reason why most farmers have guns. Sold the farm last year. Glad to be out from under the work.
 
Not many places you can dig in IL. There is the possibility of digging along rail road right of ways, but you will never get permission, it technically is illegal, though rarely policed. Most "wild places" are protected or private. If you know a farmer, ask to dig in the fence rows. But remember farmers almost always have shotguns, usually with them in the tractor, or pickup. Necessary for varmint control. When we owned a farm, the sheriff mentioned we should plan on a 20 to 35 minute response time given our location, then a long pause of silence. The implication was we needed to be prepared to "handle things" for that period, which is one of several reason why most farmers have guns. Sold the farm last year. Glad to be out from under the work.

Shawnee National Forest has permits for collecting. I realize it's a long way down state, but you can collect there. I've done it.

 
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