Yamadori with lots of trunk movement

[M. Frary]

"It has coarse rank foliage. And it's way out there."

And it has long looping bends in the trunk and roots coming out of the trunk at 2 different levels.
The picture of that sparse ass tree does nothing for me. It has a nice trunk going for it but that is about all. Because it was collected out west and styled by someone you think is great it is an automatic show stopper.
Can you explain how to get coarse ,rank foliage down to an acceptable size for this tree? Or does Dork have to gather that information from someone else?
You got pictures but no explanation on how it got there.

 

[Dorky_gearhead]

Sorry for the delayed response. It's an incense cedar. As of right now I'm not decided on what I will do with the air roots (for lack of a better term). I think I'll go with root over rock, but that was just my first impression.

Casey

 

[Dorky_gearhead]

And it has long looping bends in the trunk and roots coming out of the trunk at 2 different levels.
The picture of that sparse ass tree does nothing for me. It has a nice trunk going for it but that is about all. Because it was collected out west and styled by someone you think is great it is an automatic show stopper.
Can you explain how to get coarse ,rank foliage down to an acceptable size for this tree? Or does Dork have to gather that information from someone else?
You got pictures but no explanation on how it got there.

It has had zero styling.

 

[coh]

That Ryan Neil tree is pretty sweet. Would love to have it but don't really feel like spending $10k...

 

[Underdog]

Don't let them beat you down Gearhead. This place can be pretty harsh (although loaded with good info and helpful peeps) We're new and learning. Keep it alive and take some pleasure from it. It may give you some back. It really doesn't have to "Fit in the Book" to be a cool tree. How many of your friends and relatives who will see the tree have read "The Book"? They don't know...

If we get some years in and we're looking for quality over quantity like them, then we'll say they were right...

 

[eferguson1974]

I like it. But Im new to this also. Keep it alive and learn from it. To me, it is a natural literati and being yamadori, it can break some rules. In the end, if you like it then nothing else matters..

 

[M. Frary]

It has had zero styling.

Yep.

 

[Bunjeh]

I am completely jealous.

 

[Dorky_gearhead]

I like it. But Im new to this also. Keep it alive and learn from it. To me, it is a natural literati and being yamadori, it can break some rules. In the end, if you like it then nothing else matters..

Indubitably watson! Lol

 

[sorce]

Indubitably watson! Lol

Sorce

 

[headive24]

For good reason.

What do you propose to do with those roots that come out at different spots on the trunk?
It has coarse rank foliage. And it's way out there.
And the kicker: What is it? Knowing what you're digging up helps. Can't do a thing to it before you find out what it is.
Lastly it won't make a very convincing cascade with that looping trunk. Maybe a rainbow but not a cascade.

That's an incense cedar. I explore those mountains. I found a bunch of those on the road from lake Isabella to Sierra summit ski place. The road that passes thru wofford heights. Alot of pines and Cali junipers around there too. And firs if some kind, I believe.

But this tree is without a doubt Incense cedar aka Calocedrus decurrens

 

[ConorDash]

You’ve got plenty of time to think about it as I don’t think it should be touched for at least a year or 2, to recover, if it survives.
I tend to think collected trees, from such a “harsh” situation, is sensitive and if you really want it to survive, no touchy.

But then again I also know nothing of that climate or tree species

 

[plant_dr]

You’ve got plenty of time to think about it as I don’t think it should be touched for at least a year or 2, to recover, if it survives.
I tend to think collected trees, from such a “harsh” situation, is sensitive and if you really want it to survive, no touchy.

But then again I also know nothing of that climate or tree species

It's already been over three years since it was collected. If it's still alive and growing at this point, it's probably ready for some stylin'- unless that's been done already.

 

[Vance Wood]

And it has long looping bends in the trunk and roots coming out of the trunk at 2 different levels.
The picture of that sparse ass tree does nothing for me. It has a nice trunk going for it but that is about all. Because it was collected out west and styled by someone you think is great it is an automatic show stopper.
Can you explain how to get coarse ,rank foliage down to an acceptable size for this tree? Or does Dork have to gather that information from someone else?
You got pictures but no explanation on how it got there.

Grafting Hinoki Cypress onto it like Itowagawa Shimpaku onto a lesser Simpaku using approach grafts. I have not done this but it would be the only way. When I was living in California those of us who were growing bonsai avoided native Cedars like the plague, but that was over 50 years ago and things change. If you are thinking about this you will first have to bring the tree to full health and vigor.

 

[ConorDash]

Oh yeh, I was looking at new posts and this is a 3 year old topic lol, I wonder if the OP is even still here!
Would like to see this now.. but no updates probably means bad news