barrosinc
Masterpiece
averages are just that... half of the time you should be above average, half the time under average...
some years are warmer some are colder...
some years are warmer some are colder...
Arctic blast winter help...
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Dav4
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What Chris said. Just because it's excessively cold here doesn't mean it isn't even more excessively warm somewhere else. I do believe the earth is warmer then it was 20 years ago...what has caused that warming trend is a can of worms someone else can open. Fwiw, these extreme weather events we've seen in the last decade are more then likely related to it. It's the new normal.
eugen_onegin
Mame
I'm just gonna set this right here...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...-caused-by-global-warming-say-scientists.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...-caused-by-global-warming-say-scientists.html
mike sommers
Yamadori
I feel so bad for all of you up north. It's supposed to be 30 tonight (I'm not gloating) and everyone here is freaking out because it will the coldest temp we've had in five years. I hope that you all get through this horrible winter with minimal damage. Praying that you have an early spring. Be safe and stay warm y'all.
wireme
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Over on my side of the country its been the warmest winter I've ever seen, Terrible, keeps raining on my snow!
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Woop! There it is!!!
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So, It's February, it's raining in the middle of Canada and it's going to be below freezing in Southern FL...hmmm.
steve27
Mame
Its going down to 3 degrees tonight here in Longisland NY, glad I got my trees in my garage! good luck
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Going to be -25 here tonight, I'm so glad I have good storage for all but my larch, crab, and spruces...
Good luck to everyones roots!
Good luck to everyones roots!
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
We had -35 last blast...It's always colder at the lake. 
wireme
Masterpiece
Wow, -35 is some real cold, hope the trees are all good!
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Mame
chansen
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Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Never has a larger group of people been sold a lager crock of Bovine Scatology. Because the world is getting warmer we are freezing our collective asses off. So what would happen if we were going to have another Ice Age bear down on us??? Maybe we would be running around in speedos and worrying about heat stroke? There is an old proverb I have heard: Figures don't lie but liars can figure.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
That's the idea you are not supposed to understand the data you might figure out that these people are lying to us.
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Yes, it's so very complicated. The map shows the temperature anomaly (degrees C) for the first 17 days of February...which is simply the difference between the observed temperature and the long term (30 year) average. So, 0 is 0 as in 0 degrees. +2 is 2 degrees above normal. Etc. Temperatures in the northeastern US for the first 17 days of February are averaging 7-8 deg below normal. Temperatures in the western US are averaging up to 10 deg above normal. Overall the continental US is averaging +0.916 deg. The global average is +0.231 deg.
The point of the map is NOT to demonstrate global warming. It is to demonstrate that despite the extreme cold in YOUR location, most of the world is averaging slightly above normal. Global...versus local. Big picture versus small picture.
Paradox
Marine Bonsologist
Coh is correct, Vance. I know it is hard to believe given the abnormally cold winters the east coast has had the last couple of years. As stated, that is a local phenomenon. Conversely, the west coast is having yet another very warm, dry winter for how many years in a row now? These are a result of that damn polar vortex that just doesnt want to stay over the north pole where it belongs and instead drifts south over the eastern half of the U.S.
"Global warming" is bad terminology. "Climate change" is a better way to describe what is happening.
It is predicted that local extreme weather will be come more common as climate change occurs and we can certainly attest to that: the drought out west, the cold winters, the more intense hurricanes, not just here, but similar things are happening all over the world. There are also hemispherical fluctuations at play in those phenomenon (el nino; la nina, Pacific ocellation, Atlantic ocellation etc), but they arent the whole story.
We need to see beyond our back yard and look globally to really see what is happening.
Average annual global temperature is on the rise. It is documented in our glaciers. There are many many examples documented in photographs over the last 100 or so years that show how much they are melting. Sea level has risen as a result along with average ocean temperatures. We have seen marine species extending further north than their historical ranges because of warming ocean temperatures. There has also been changes in the flora. This has all been documented, and isnt theory or lies.
"Global warming" is bad terminology. "Climate change" is a better way to describe what is happening.
It is predicted that local extreme weather will be come more common as climate change occurs and we can certainly attest to that: the drought out west, the cold winters, the more intense hurricanes, not just here, but similar things are happening all over the world. There are also hemispherical fluctuations at play in those phenomenon (el nino; la nina, Pacific ocellation, Atlantic ocellation etc), but they arent the whole story.
We need to see beyond our back yard and look globally to really see what is happening.
Average annual global temperature is on the rise. It is documented in our glaciers. There are many many examples documented in photographs over the last 100 or so years that show how much they are melting. Sea level has risen as a result along with average ocean temperatures. We have seen marine species extending further north than their historical ranges because of warming ocean temperatures. There has also been changes in the flora. This has all been documented, and isnt theory or lies.
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M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
. -32 Wednesday night. Colder right now. Could push down to -40 or more. Wahoo!
Climate change? Hooey I say! Can't change or stop it. Kind of like taxes.
History shows that the ice ages occur right after warm ups. Warm ups create precipitation. Precipitation comes from clouds. Clouds shade the earth from the sun. The average temperature needs only to drop 2 degrees and stay like that for a few years to get one going.
Going to throw boiling water up in the air today and watch it freeze before it hits the ground. Fun on a cold day.
Climate change? Hooey I say! Can't change or stop it. Kind of like taxes.
History shows that the ice ages occur right after warm ups. Warm ups create precipitation. Precipitation comes from clouds. Clouds shade the earth from the sun. The average temperature needs only to drop 2 degrees and stay like that for a few years to get one going.
Going to throw boiling water up in the air today and watch it freeze before it hits the ground. Fun on a cold day.
fourteener
Omono
I remember back in the 80's there was this fear that the sun was running out of fuel and causing global cooling. I suggest that like much of life, there are cycles. Linear doomsday think always wants us in fear. Enjoy that!!
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Been waiting to hear from you or Crust, Fourteener! Was wondering how cold you had it recently but since you didn't post here I feared you might be frozen to the ground!
