sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Since when do they allow cameras in Gen Pop?
Usually burner phones don't have cameras.....
What are we talking about?
Sorce
Usually burner phones don't have cameras.....
What are we talking about?
Sorce
All aboard the Mugo train!
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RickMartin
Omono
At almost every event ive gone to be it bonsai or something else, people going to just view whats going on were allowed to take pics, i would think that would be probably what a event was all about. Getting the ones there showing recognition and get new people interested.If the public wasnt allowed to take pics i think that is just dumb ass stupid.
Rick
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M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Did you get hugged Vance?
I posted on here you like hugs from strangers and was wondering if they did?
As to the tree Vance I think it's wonderful. You know that already I suppose.
GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
As I said in a previous post you were correct
Even though this was purchased to see if I can even grow any Pines I will probably do so next season if it Winters good.
What I have done to prepare for that is as follows -
As purchased 05/03/2016 -
Separated the main four buried branches a bit using tensioners I make as I go -
Top view showing the buried actual trunk -
I "think" if I leave it alone until next year I will be able to have a decent shot at separating the mess. Along with repotting what time of year might you suggest?
Thank you in advance
Grimmy
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coh
Imperial Masterpiece
That is appreciated. There are a number of reasons for that rule that I won't go into here, but when people purchase tickets to enter they are agreeing to abide by any stated rules, including the no photography rule...whether they agree with them or not (@RickMartin ). I don't know if anyone has ever been asked to leave for taking photos, but some have definitely come close. I think most people are just oblivious and don't even see the signs, others think the rules don't apply to them. Then there are the "touchers" who insist on touching trees, stands, etc...I wonder if they would touch paintings in the National Gallery?
As for Vance's mugo, I don't know if I mentioned it in the other thread, but I thought it looked excellent. Good job, Vance, and congratulations!
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
A really lousy picture against a white back ground. Best I could do under the circumstances. I had no delusions that the tree was going to win anything, just have it there was enough for me. Peculiar; this was the only Mugo displayed.
Leo in N E Illinois
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@M. Frary - about 'Mitches' Mini'
Damn - your specimen is huge. I don't know why. It could be that as they age, they can get really large. If yours was 40 years old, the size would not surprise me.
Mitches Mini is a witches broom. They are most often caused by epigenetic changes which block the expression of a short strand of DNA of a single bud. Epigenetic mean the underlying DNA is still intact and not mutated. Epigenetic changes are often caused by environmental stresses. AND epigenetic changes can reverse themselves. Sometimes, at no predictable time interval, at the gene loci where the methylation "blocking of gene expression" occurred the process reverses itself and normal growth resumes. This means witches brooms are not necessarily stable, they can revert back to normal growth. Some specific witches broom clones are known to be very stable, some are noted for reverting to normal. So a second possibility is that your tree was propagated from stock material that had reverted back to normal.
Those are my thoughts, yours is either very old, or is a reversion to normal growth. When you cut branches, count the rings and see how old the branch is, you can then make a guess at the age of the tree.
Damn - your specimen is huge. I don't know why. It could be that as they age, they can get really large. If yours was 40 years old, the size would not surprise me.
Mitches Mini is a witches broom. They are most often caused by epigenetic changes which block the expression of a short strand of DNA of a single bud. Epigenetic mean the underlying DNA is still intact and not mutated. Epigenetic changes are often caused by environmental stresses. AND epigenetic changes can reverse themselves. Sometimes, at no predictable time interval, at the gene loci where the methylation "blocking of gene expression" occurred the process reverses itself and normal growth resumes. This means witches brooms are not necessarily stable, they can revert back to normal growth. Some specific witches broom clones are known to be very stable, some are noted for reverting to normal. So a second possibility is that your tree was propagated from stock material that had reverted back to normal.
Those are my thoughts, yours is either very old, or is a reversion to normal growth. When you cut branches, count the rings and see how old the branch is, you can then make a guess at the age of the tree.
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@Vance Wood - the tree is looking great, it really looks nice, even better "groomed" than it was for the show in Grand Rapids. I'm glad I got to see this one once in person. Photos will never to it justice. It is a very nice, well done tree, and blends in with the caliber of trees at the nationals. It deserves to be there. Win or not, it does belong at that show. All the trees in the national show are top rank trees. Congrats
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
Ahhh. There it is.
I didn't think there would be other mugo pines there.
If it's alright I'll save this picture to go with the rest I have from the last few years. It isn't even my tree and I have ano album of pictures as it progresses.
Hell I have more pictures of this tree than some of my own.
@Leo in N E Illinois It has some long needles. Almost as long as eastern white pine. It has great bark out to the ends of the branches. And it backbuds on old wood. I picked it up at a small nursery down by Rochester Hills. They had a killer Scots pine but I couldn't afford both. I'm going down there in October for a wedding and if they are open I'm getting it.
Mugo or scots?
I had nothing to play with and wire with copper for the first time, so bought a pine for 8€ in arboretum today. Lady said it was a scots pine seedling, they have a line of seedlings and they differ too much each from other. My guess is maybe it's mugo. What would you say?
I had nothing to play with and wire with copper for the first time, so bought a pine for 8€ in arboretum today. Lady said it was a scots pine seedling, they have a line of seedlings and they differ too much each from other. My guess is maybe it's mugo. What would you say?
M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
I have some younger Scots . I'll go look at themy to see what the young bark looks like but I think it's mugo.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Could be, Scots usually do not have twisted needles and Mugos do have that tendency.
Thank you. The bark is identical with the others I acquired earlier this year. I'm only confused with the white colour of the buds. This time of season my other mugos have brown-bronze coloured buds set for next spring and a couple of green buds that will probably open shortly.
Gents, it was really funny to look at all those trees offered. Every single piece was different, holding this one and one with incredibly short needles and internodes, it was really difficult to make a choice.
... going there tomorrow?
Gents, it was really funny to look at all those trees offered. Every single piece was different, holding this one and one with incredibly short needles and internodes, it was really difficult to make a choice.
... going there tomorrow?
RickMartin
Omono
coh
Imperial Masterpiece
Actually, I meant to edit that post and remove your name but got distracted - wasn't my intention to call you out in particular. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Well, there's a couple reasons. One is the obvious one - they're going to sell a book with all the trees pictured. If everyone has all the pictures, who's going to buy the book?
But also, if there were a lot of people in there setting up tripods all over the place, they interfere with the traffic flow as people move about the exhibit. And what if someone trips over a tripod stand ? Who's liable?
I took a couple pictures of my own trees, and had someone take a picture of me standing next to my tree.
Rick, why should the "General Population" be able to take photos but an Exhibiter not?
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
While I remember to do so I want to thank Adair so much for all of his help and offers of friendship as well as many of you Bnutters. It was really great meating some of you knowing that many of you had to go out of you way to do so. That is a really humbeling experience. You guys made me really glad I went more than taking the tree.
...quoting my post to pair before and after pictures. The tree is after initial styling, wiring, bending, two bare branches removed and the terminal buds reduced to two. Not so bad for 8€ I think.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
@Adair M that was a very kind gesture!
@Vance Wood you are a good man!
I am proud to be here to watch you still rising in your craft, getting where you belong. You deserve everything good that comes your way!
Sorce
@Vance Wood you are a good man!
I am proud to be here to watch you still rising in your craft, getting where you belong. You deserve everything good that comes your way!
Sorce
RickMartin
Omono
I didnt say the exhibitor shouldnt be able to. But now that you mention it a exhibitor is in bonsai he sees nice trees everyday, the gerneral public does not. I wonder how many people came of the street never seen a bonsai before, that if they could take pics might get them into bonsai, and unless im mistaken the book wasnt ready for them to get one to take home and look at and go ohhhh i want to try this. So who loses in this. The guy that walked in off the street, and the bonsai community for losing out on potential bonsai artist. And tou dont need a big expensive camera to take pics. I can see the dilemma with tripods set up, but a cell phone. Come on now.
Rick
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