Wintering Japanese maple

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Hello all,

I'm super new to the world of bonsai. I've many articles and watched YouTube vids but I still questions on wintering Japanese maple.

I live in a zone 7/8 area. Not a lot snow, the temp rarely goes below - 10c, but it can get very windy on the balcony in my condo.

I'm afraid the wind and the rain will damage the bonsai during the winter.

Would something like this be sufficient? Basically two foam coolers with weather stripping between the two coolers. I do not have the option of planting it in the ground. Yes I know it looks like a star wars droid.

If sufficient from the cold, wind, and rain, when would I take it out?
How often would I water it?
Should I make drainage holes or take it out, drain, and put it back in?

Thanks again!!
 

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I know this much, you want to keep the root zone of your Japanese maple from falling below ~25F, but you also want to keep the tree as chilled as possible(32F-45F is ideal) so it can achieve proper dormancy.

With some adjustments to your cooler setup to allow for drainage(so the roots stay moist but not soggy) and a bit of air circulation within, I think it could work quite well, since leafless, dormant deciduous trees do not require any light.

Add many small drainage holes to the bottom of the bottom cooler, add an inch or so of mulch, set the newly leafless, dormant tree(pot and all) on top of the mulch and fill with mulch until the level is 1/2" - 1" above the height of the soil/potting media level of the pot. Poke some holes in the top cooler for a bit of air circulation then secure the top in place, bearing in mind that you will occasionally have to open it up to check the moisture level, so the roots stay moist and do not dry out. Place the whole setup in the shadiest place on the porch. A temperature sensor would be handy during extreme cold, say, when the outside temperature is going to get to 15F or below, in which case you may have to offer an additional layer of protection. For example, you could loosely fill a large trash can with pine needles and flip it upside down and lower it on top of the cooler setup.
 

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You don't want to have it strapped up, best to leave it as easy to check on as possible.

If the height of the tree is at least 4in less than your box, I reckon you can cut one down a bit so they nest into each other with friction.

This way you can pull it off and pop it on real quick.

I'd put a one inch hole on each corner, and keep the cut out to plug it back up if needed when it's really cold.

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Thank you so much Miker and Sorce!!!

Is it a big overkill? I did find this little cooler. I would be filling it up with mulch and cutting out drainage holes at the bottom. Would it be a problem exposing the trunk and branches? Should I put the lid on to cover the roots which is already covered by the mulch? Maybe not covering it entirely?

It doesn't get as cold as - 10c or 14f much where I am. My balcony is pretty sheltered from the rain and snow though the wind does pick up from time to time

Sorry for so many questions. Thanks again
 

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You could probably just mulch the pot in thoroughly as described above and the top should be fine in zone 7/8. I was recommended small/fine pine bark mulch and it really worked well for me this past winter. What is the lowest temperature your location typically sees in an average year?
 

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Your second options seems fine, just place as far away from wind as possible. However, you do have to be very careful of freezing weather when the buds break. The new leaves should not be exposed to freeze or hard frost (Maples break bud relatively early)
 

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You could probably just mulch the pot in thoroughly as described above and the top should be fine in zone 7/8. I was recommended small/fine pine bark mulch and it really worked well for me this past winter. What is the lowest temperature your location typically sees in an average year?
Thank you Miker, the temp during the winter months at night averages 34f but last year we had snow for the first time in two years. We do get lots of rain but it's quite sheltered from that on my balcony.
 

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Your second options seems fine, just place as far away from wind as possible. However, you do have to be very careful of freezing weather when the buds break. The new leaves should not be exposed to freeze or hard frost (Maples break bud relatively early)
Thank you Augustine! The wind is what I'm worried about. I'll put it in a wooden crate too. If we do get a wind warning, add a makeshift white plastic cover.
 

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Hello again!

I've been trying to find fine pine mulch in my area and on a brief trip to Seattle and was unsuccessful. I did end up ordering a bag from Amazon.

I have some new questions.

Can use the pine mulch just around the pot and fill the rest of the cooler with other mulch / soil?

Should I wrap the pot in burlap before burying it in mulch?

Regarding watering during the winter, would i just water directly over the mulch where the bonsai is and how much? I have a moisture meter as well so that should help.

Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks in advance
 

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You can basically use bagged mulch from home depot. I have been using heir bagged shredded hardwood mulch for two decades. You just want to stay away from the stuff that has had color added to it.

Water your trees well before you bury them in the mulch.. If they're outside this winter, you probably won't have to water them again with the rain and snow. Make sure the pots have some kind support underneath them, like bricks at the corner feet, to allow for a drainage space underneath--a VERY important detail...
 

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You can basically use bagged mulch from home depot. I have been using heir bagged shredded hardwood mulch for two decades. You just want to stay away from the stuff that has had color added to it.

Water your trees well before you bury them in the mulch.. If they're outside this winter, you probably won't have to water them again with the rain and snow. Make sure the pots have some kind support underneath them, like bricks at the corner feet, to allow for a drainage space underneath--a VERY important detail...
Thank you Rockm
 

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You can basically use bagged mulch from home depot. I have been using heir bagged shredded hardwood mulch for two decades. You just want to stay away from the stuff that has had color added to it.

Water your trees well before you bury them in the mulch.. If they're outside this winter, you probably won't have to water them again with the rain and snow. Make sure the pots have some kind support underneath them, like bricks at the corner feet, to allow for a drainage space underneath--a VERY important detail...
Hello Rockm!!!

When you mention supports at the bottom of the pot, did you mean bottom of the bonsai pot or the bottom of the container that i will be putting the pot into which will have drainage holes at the bottom?
Thanks again!
 

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Thank you Rockm

Hi Mr Bear,
Hope you don't mind my opinion being a little different from others.
My climate in New Zealand sounds reasonably similar to yours. Lots of rain, frosts to -5C, little snow and cold winds from Antarctica lol. My plants all freeze including all of the bonsai mix, and are now ( Spring here) bursting into life again.
Yes it may not be quite as cold as yours but others talk about minus in Fahrenheit being dangerous to plants trying to overwinter.
Apart from keeping your tree on the warm side of the balcony? I think if you keep it outside, let it freeze, therefore forces the dormancy needed, and cover with a piece of plastic or your polystyrene box ( no cover !!!) if gets REALLY cold (-10C). You might get a small bit of dieback but your maple will thank you for giving it a winter.
The photo I added is a 7-10 year old grafted Kotohime maple which I am planning to air-layer off.
Charles
 

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Hi Mr Bear,
Hope you don't mind my opinion being a little different from others.
My climate in New Zealand sounds reasonably similar to yours. Lots of rain, frosts to -5C, little snow and cold winds from Antarctica lol. My plants all freeze including all of the bonsai mix, and are now ( Spring here) bursting into life again.
Yes it may not be quite as cold as yours but others talk about minus in Fahrenheit being dangerous to plants trying to overwinter.
Apart from keeping your tree on the warm side of the balcony? I think if you keep it outside, let it freeze, therefore forces the dormancy needed, and cover with a piece of plastic or your polystyrene box ( no cover !!!) if gets REALLY cold (-10C). You might get a small bit of dieback but your maple will thank you for giving it a winter.
The photo I added is a 7-10 year old grafted Kotohime maple which I am planning to air-layer off.
Charles
Thank you kiwiplantguy!! Definitely keeping the bonsai outside and with lots of holes in the cover of the container. I'm more afraid of the temp dropping due to the windchill during the winter. I'm not going to put the bonsai with any heating devices. I'm just hoping it survives its first winter with me. :)
 

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Hello Rockm!!!

When you mention supports at the bottom of the pot, did you mean bottom of the bonsai pot or the bottom of the container that i will be putting the pot into which will have drainage holes at the bottom?
Thanks again!

I would skip the container to hold the bonsai pot. It's unnecessary and potentially a problem. The aim of mulching is to trap the ambient warmer temps of the soil below. IT IS NOT TO KEEP TREES "WARM." Adding electric heating elements to plants overwintered in this situation is not only counterproductive, it is potentially dangerous. Don't do it. If you think a particular species isn't up to the cold, find alternatives. Japanese maples are very well capable of surviving Zone 7 conditions. Don't worry about them.

You are overwintering on a balcony, which can complicate things, since it will experience wider temperature swings. Ideally, I'd try to find somewhere on the ground to overwinter, but if you have to do it on the balcony, I'd try to find a place that's out of the wind and in contact with a larger mass--such as the building wall.

FWIW, I have been overwintering in Zone 7 Virginia for over two decades now. I overwinter all of my trees (with one exception) in my backyard in garden beds under about nine inches or so of mulch. When November rolls around (exact dates vary), I pull my trees off their benches. The majority are placed on my brick patio (which is sheltered from the wind by a six foot fence), others, including my maples, are placed in the bottom of a two foot deep cold pit. Before I put them down, however, I make sure the pots are NOT resting directly on the surface below them. The pots are placed on one or two bricks at each corner of their pots. This extra clearance insures the pots will drain over the winter. Placing them directly on the patio or cold frame's bottom can wind up blocking drainage.

The maples really don't need the cold pit, but it provides a bit more protection from the winter wind.

Once the trees are all placed in their respective winter quarters, I water them all very well.

I then start adding mulch a few inches at a time.

I water the mulch if it's dry out of the bag-dry mulch can pull water out of the bonsai pots and can even wind up staying dry through the winter, repelling needed rainfall and snow melt that keep the trees moist. Moist soil is essential to keep plants safe from harder freezes, as it can act as an insulator. However, soggy soil is an enemy as it can rot roots.

I pile enough mulch to cover the trees up to three or four inches up their trunks. The more mulch in the pile, the more stable the temps underneath it.

I don't water the trees the rest of the winter, although I keep an eye on the mulch every now and then to make sure it doesn't dry out. Once it freezes, it's useless to try and water anyway.

The mulch pile usually freezes through by the end of December into early Jan. depending on the weather. That's not a bad thing. The aim of mulching is to keep root temperatures stable, but as cold as possible, for as long as possible in the winter/early spring. I don't really worry about temps that get down into single digits or even lower if the cold isn't prolonged--which usually isn't an issue in Zone 7.

In early spring, mulch becomes valuable in keeping trees cold as the days warm up. The temperature lag provided by the mulch can put off the "bonsai two step" process of having to bring trees that have broken into leaf inside during freezes.
 
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I would skip the container to hold the bonsai pot. It's unnecessary and potentially a problem. The aim of mulching is to trap the ambient warmer temps of the soil below. IT IS NOT TO KEEP TREES "WARM." Adding electric heating elements to plants overwintered in this situation is not only counterproductive, it is potentially dangerous. Don't do it. If you think a particular species isn't up to the cold, find alternatives. Japanese maples are very well capable of surviving Zone 7 conditions. Don't worry about them.

You are overwintering on a balcony, which can complicate things, since it will experience wider temperature swings. Ideally, I'd try to find somewhere on the ground to overwinter, but if you have to do it on the balcony, I'd try to find a place that's out of the wind and in contact with a larger mass--such as the building wall.

FWIW, I have been overwintering in Zone 7 Virginia for over two decades now. I overwinter all of my trees (with one exception) in my backyard in garden beds under about nine inches or so of mulch. When November rolls around (exact dates vary), I pull my trees off their benches. The majority are placed on my brick patio (which is sheltered from the wind by a six foot fence), others, including my maples, are placed in the bottom of a two foot deep cold pit. Before I put them down, however, I make sure the pots are NOT resting directly on the surface below them. The pots are placed on one or two bricks at each corner of their pots. This extra clearance insures the pots will drain over the winter. Placing them directly on the patio or cold frame's bottom can wind up blocking drainage.

The maples really don't need the cold pit, but it provides a bit more protection from the winter wind.

Once the trees are all placed in their respective winter quarters, I water them all very well.

I then start adding mulch a few inches at a time.

I water the mulch if it's dry out of the bag-dry mulch can pull water out of the bonsai pots and can even wind up staying dry through the winter, repelling needed rainfall and snow melt that keep the trees moist. Moist soil is essential to keep plants safe from harder freezes, as it can act as an insulator. However, soggy soil is an enemy as it can rot roots.

I pile enough mulch to cover the trees up to three or four inches up their trunks. The more mulch in the pile, the more stable the temps underneath it.

I don't water the trees the rest of the winter, although I keep an eye on the mulch every now and then to make sure it doesn't dry out. Once it freezes, it's useless to try and water anyway.

The mulch pile usually freezes through by the end of December into early Jan. depending on the weather. That's not a bad thing. The aim of mulching is to keep root temperatures stable, but as cold as possible, for as long as possible in the winter/early spring. I don't really worry about temps that get down into single digits or even lower if the cold isn't prolonged--which usually isn't an issue in Zone 7.

In early spring, mulch becomes valuable in keeping trees cold as the days warm up. The temperature lag provided by the mulch can put off the "bonsai two step" process of having to bring trees that have broken into leaf inside during freezes.
Thank you Rockm!! Really really informative. Just to confirm, all I need to do is to mulch the top of the soil? Do I to do anything for the side of the pot? I live in an apartment so I can't put the bonsai in a cold pit. Best I can do is in a container to protect it from the winds.
Thanks again :)
 

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You'll want to mulch the whole pot in, sides and top. As everyone has said, just make sure you have drainage under the mulch.
 

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Thank you Rockm!! Really really informative. Just to confirm, all I need to do is to mulch the top of the soil? Do I to do anything for the side of the pot? I live in an apartment so I can't put the bonsai in a cold pit. Best I can do is in a container to protect it from the winds.
Thanks again :)
Let me put it this way, you're making a mulch pile and burying the pot in the middle of it--:)protecting all sides. Putting it only on the top is useless.

The pile traps ambient heat (and cold) from the surface it's sitting on. Think of it as a woody blanket of sorts. In your situation, I'd put the tree on the balcony floor against the wall that looks into your apartment. Pile mulch over the pot, top to bottom ensuring the soil is well-watered before doing so. That mulch pile will probably trap some ambient heat from the wall (since the other side or that wall is a heated apartment) that will help protect it over the winter. You will probably have to check the pile periodically to ensure it stays moist throughout if your balcony is covered.
 
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