JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
I was very sad to see that there is one measly deciduous tree in the Mirai sale. Not neccesarily that I'm looking to buy a tree, but it just reinforces the lack of deciduous champions in the industry. 
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jimib
Shohin
That live oak? I looked at it as soon as it came up...and after about 20 seconds just logged off..lol.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
No, there is a zelkova, must have missed the live oak... OK so there is 2. whoopee.
20 seconds is pretty much the length of the sale looks like, 12 minutes, and there are very few left.
That’s because they take a lot longer to create!I was very sad to see that there is one measly deciduous tree in the Mirai sale. Not neccesarily that I'm looking to buy a tree, but it just reinforces the lack of deciduous champions in the industry.
Bill Valavanis has been doing bonsai for 50 years. He has nice deciduous trees.
jimib
Shohin
I just now saw the zelkova...
Mike Hennigan
Chumono
That scots pine sold soooo fast.... 
Gary McCarthy
Chumono
I'm fortunate enough to only live an hour from Bill. I'm at his place a few times throughout the year admiring AND looking to buy some of his deciduous trees. Especially some of his shohin deciduous trees. Unfortunately I must have a good eye and I'm always picking out some of his best deciduous trees in his collection that so far he just can't bear to part with. I always leave there a little disappointed
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
so you are both fortunate and Unfortunate...I'm fortunate enough to only live an hour from Bill. I'm at his place a few times throughout the year admiring AND looking to buy some of his deciduous trees. Especially some of his shohin deciduous trees. Unfortunately I must have a good eye and I'm always picking out some of his best deciduous trees in his collection that so far he just can't bear to part with. I always leave there a little disappointed
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Yeah, I get that, but it's still disappointing.
Nybonsai12
Masterpiece
Easier to make money with large collected conifers that can be made show or sale ready in a few short years.
Owen Reich and Andrew Robeson both want to specialize in deciduous trees.
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
ive seen Ryan working on a fair few bits of deciduous trees on the streams, maybe every 4th stream or so, ive seen zelkova, pomegranate, field maple, tilia, beech, maple, trident in the last stream and a chinese elm a few weeks ago. some nice bits here n there, he must be waiting to get them to a good level
i dont see the sale being advertised on the website. if anyone has a pic of the Zelkova, do show...
i dont see the sale being advertised on the website. if anyone has a pic of the Zelkova, do show...
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
@BobbyLane link here.
I would like to have access to good material, doesn't have to be "finished". Lots of the material he has isn't finished, just want to see some representation of D.
Trees
goods.bonsaimirai.com
I would like to have access to good material, doesn't have to be "finished". Lots of the material he has isn't finished, just want to see some representation of D.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Owen does indeed. We will see about Andrew, Bjorn was supposed to be all about it, but doesn't seem as oriented that way as I had expected.
Smoke
Ignore-Amus
If they all make triangle deciduous trees, who wants a collection full of those?
Cadillactaste
Neagari Gal
I was just having this discussion with Scott Lee. There is more of a demand for conifers than deciduous trees. I realize the time it takes...think yamadori has influenced the decline as well?
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Who said they do that?
I'd take a few triangle deciduous....then attempt to grow a more natural canopy.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Andrew is studying under Hagedorn who doesn't seem to be held back from breaking out of the mold, and Owen certainly has a wide range of talents that go beyond strictly traditional. I think there is a place for triangle trees too though. I find many different things attractive.
JudyB
Queen of the Nuts
Yeah I mean a lot of the thing is just getting material out there to move the D aesthetic forward is how I see it.
thams
Omono
I don't think Matt Ouwinga should be omitted from the conversation when it comes to deciduous trees. Many people know him as the pot guy, but he's been supplying quality trident (among other) seedlings for the community to start building. He's got a stellar collection in his own right with many more growing out in fields for future refinement.
