Rainwater capture systems

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We're planning to move next year to be closer to grandkids :) This will likely be our retirement home so we're hoping to tick off as much of our "dream house" wish list as possible with this one! On that list is a rainwater collection system.

In our last house, I had a 250 gallon tank that I used to collect rain water. This house we have nothing because there's no place for such a thing that wouldn't be an "eye-sore" (we have an HOA). We're hoping for 1+ acres in a rural setting so should be able to do something nice in a potential new home.

I've recently bought a flow meter so I could measure current typical water usage. For my non-garden plants...trees, patio flowers, basically everything in a "pot" of some kind...my typical usage is ~40 gallons per day. 250 gallons won't last long at that rate! We'll be moving to northern Illinois so rain in the spring but less rain in the summer.

For reference: an average home footprint for the type of home we're likely to purchase is 2500 square feet. A 1" rainfall over that area is roughly 1500 gallons of water. I'm thinking of a system that can store >2000 gallons. That would give me roughly 50 days of water at my typical "container plants" rate...the reality would be much shorter because we both have a large garden on our wish list as well :D

One system I really like the looks of is modular and in-ground. The retention capacity is chosen by how many modules go into the retention basin.

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It collects rain from downspouts and can be permeable above the collection basin to collect rain from that area as well. The system is modular so the area it covers can change. There are add-ons for water features (fountains, waterfalls, etc...) where the water is pumped from the basin and returns to the basin. In this picture:

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the river stones allow the water from the fountain to seep through back into the basin to be re-circulated.

So this got me thinking: since the basin is sound enough to walk on/support weight, what if I built my container garden on top on it/sloped to drain into it? Would that be a problem? Mostly I'm concerned about fertilizers leaching out and increasing concentrations over time in the collection basin. But maybe there are other concerns? I'd likely switch to all organic fertilizers if there was a chance of the drain water being re-collected.

The drain water doesn't have to be recaptured. I was thinking it would be convenient while on vacations as I could set up a sprinkler from the house water so I wouldn't have to worry about the basic running dry and also not have to worry about how long the sprinkler ran for since I'd be collecting the run-off for re-use anyway.

Before anyone asks...this is not a money saving endeavor. Water is roughly $12 per 1000 gallons most places we're likely to live. Systems this size are NOT cheap! I could water for years and not pay off the system. This is a conservation activity...and possible storm water/flood management issue depending on where we end up.

Does anyone have any experience/thoughts on these types of systems? Does anyone see other things I should be thinking about/concerned with? Is anyone aware of other water retention systems that are worth looking into? At this point, I'm in a slow-burn research mode. We wouldn't be doing anything until next summer earliest...more likely the summer after by the time we buy a home, move and get situated, etc...
 
Taking cues from that first pic, it shouldn't be terribly difficult to incorporate a sand filtration system that sits atop the basin, filtering contaminants from the runoff water as it goes down into the basin. Coupled with some plants in the ground, that should take care of any excess fert or other chemicals running off from your potted plants.

If the expense of a commercial system like what you've pictured gets to you, remember that it's essentially a French drain on top of a buried tank. You can find the parts and build your own as handily as pay someone so long as you have access to the labor.
 
Your roof down spots to a subterranean catch basin tank will likely be all you need. The yard run off to sloping to swells to french drain and drain grates to catch basin is going to be a ton of work. Labor and capital expense IMHO.
 
Check this out before you make those plans:
It isn't entirely illegal now in any state, but there are many including IL with restrictions.

Yeah, I've looked into the legality a bit. Illinois is a highly regulated state :( The regulations are mostly around not collecting for potable use and construction meeting local building codes...including those for French wells if stored under ground.

One of the reasons for not going the "build my own French well" route is it's easier to get through the permitting with a commercial system. We got into some of that when we had a septic issue that impacted our French well. Our entire neighborhood had septic systems that all tied together and leached into a nearby mine shaft. The entire neighborhood was in a fight with the state over that issue before we moved in...and they were in the same fight with the state 10 years later when we moved out.
 
I have my rain gutters on the rear half of the house piped into this pond. I almost never have to add water and use it to water all my trees. Approximately 1500 gal.
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First, is it legal to collect rainwater in your jurisdiction? Some areas are now preventing homeowners from collecting and storing rainwater.
 
JOYsee... LOL The GARDEN State!
Don't ask, don't tell.
Gutters used to run into the back yard. Now into the pond which overflows into the back yard when it rains hard.
They even want to tax your rain water? LOL I want to be a hermit....
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Careful there some states/counties have made it illegal to collect rainwater. Be sure to do your do dilligence before you start investing into the project.
 
What is the logic behind forbidding the collection of rain water?
 
Had to google what I thought was absurd.

It is not illegal in Ohio to harvest rainwater and is encouraged in some areas with tax incentives as well as rebates. Ohio allows rainwater harvesting, even for potable purposes. Private water systems that provide drinking water to fewer than twenty-five people are regulated by the Ohio Department of Health (ODH).

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We're planning to move next year to be closer to grandkids :) This will likely be our retirement home so we're hoping to tick off as much of our "dream house" wish list as possible with this one! On that list is a rainwater collection system.

In our last house, I had a 250 gallon tank that I used to collect rain water. This house we have nothing because there's no place for such a thing that wouldn't be an "eye-sore" (we have an HOA). We're hoping for 1+ acres in a rural setting so should be able to do something nice in a potential new home.

I've recently bought a flow meter so I could measure current typical water usage. For my non-garden plants...trees, patio flowers, basically everything in a "pot" of some kind...my typical usage is ~40 gallons per day. 250 gallons won't last long at that rate! We'll be moving to northern Illinois so rain in the spring but less rain in the summer.

For reference: an average home footprint for the type of home we're likely to purchase is 2500 square feet. A 1" rainfall over that area is roughly 1500 gallons of water. I'm thinking of a system that can store >2000 gallons. That would give me roughly 50 days of water at my typical "container plants" rate...the reality would be much shorter because we both have a large garden on our wish list as well :D

One system I really like the looks of is modular and in-ground. The retention capacity is chosen by how many modules go into the retention basin.

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It collects rain from downspouts and can be permeable above the collection basin to collect rain from that area as well. The system is modular so the area it covers can change. There are add-ons for water features (fountains, waterfalls, etc...) where the water is pumped from the basin and returns to the basin. In this picture:

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the river stones allow the water from the fountain to seep through back into the basin to be re-circulated.

So this got me thinking: since the basin is sound enough to walk on/support weight, what if I built my container garden on top on it/sloped to drain into it? Would that be a problem? Mostly I'm concerned about fertilizers leaching out and increasing concentrations over time in the collection basin. But maybe there are other concerns? I'd likely switch to all organic fertilizers if there was a chance of the drain water being re-collected.

The drain water doesn't have to be recaptured. I was thinking it would be convenient while on vacations as I could set up a sprinkler from the house water so I wouldn't have to worry about the basic running dry and also not have to worry about how long the sprinkler ran for since I'd be collecting the run-off for re-use anyway.

Before anyone asks...this is not a money saving endeavor. Water is roughly $12 per 1000 gallons most places we're likely to live. Systems this size are NOT cheap! I could water for years and not pay off the system. This is a conservation activity...and possible storm water/flood management issue depending on where we end up.

Does anyone have any experience/thoughts on these types of systems? Does anyone see other things I should be thinking about/concerned with? Is anyone aware of other water retention systems that are worth looking into? At this point, I'm in a slow-burn research mode. We wouldn't be doing anything until next summer earliest...more likely the summer after by the time we buy a home, move and get situated, etc...
when I get a chance to read this be cool.Looks a great and interesting tooic.I always have about 200 gallons in storage from downspouts…….mine are airtight and gutters are screened with surgical mesh.
Still have to clean the 30 gallon containers once a season and usually when rain is expected I will drain themm all as they will fill quite quickky from just even a 1/4” of rain.And have extra fresh water.Just like deionized water practically and I use it in my outdoor Hydro ebb& flo’s.
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