Vance, truly an OG here and elsewhere in the bonsai scene. I remember him from my pre Bnut days back when The Gardenweb forum(s) was the place to be... that's got to be close to 20 years ago. When I moved here after Bonsai Talk collapsed, Vance was already here, fully engaged in discussions with veterans and newbies alike. Uber generous with his time helping/assisting/directing, etc. His experience was almost unparalleled among members, and I think he took it as a point of pride to make at least one comment in every new thread, be it a compliment, advice, etc., but he also came loaded for bear if you talked smack about Mugos at any level. They were his babies and he took it upon himself to preach to the unwashed about their potential beauty and utility in bonsai, as well as to protect them those who, for one reason or another, held them in disdain... and I was one of those people! Man, he loved a good argument, and those arguments were not just about Mugos! Anyway, it became obvious over the last 5 years or so that Vance was not participating here like he had in the past. I was tickled to see that he finally got to display one of his Mugo masterpieces at the NBE... I knew how proud he was to do so. Truthfully, I have missed his interaction here over the last 3 years or so, and I feel sorry for many of the newer members who never got to meet his on line persona live. Still, his contribution here is enormous and available to anyone who chooses to look back and dig around. RIP, Vance, a B'nut Original Gangster!