Barberry?

Size

Sorry for late response . Working, or lack there of!
Will secure it. As far as the size, it's on the tall side. I'll measure when I get home.
Didn't see a massive amount of fine roots. Did have a lot of dead branches.
How big is too big? It has to be over 30 inches! Do you think it could be to big to work with?
 
You should have made the plan before the dig. Fiddling with it now can cause its demise. It is a very nice tree and I would hate for you to lose it.

Make a decision quick and stick with it. Leave the tree alone to recover ASAP.

Good luck!
 
Sorry. I didn't mean to be harsh but you have a really wonderful material that should have been treated with all care to collect, trimmed properly, and potted on good soil...all in one operation. Doing them piece meal reduces your plants chances of survival. I think it is a once in a lifetime find (for most of us) that I am so excited. :cool:

If you've read my posts, I am a high root to trunk ratio proponent but in this case and situation, I would leave it be. Let the tree sort out which branch to drop if it cannot support it.

Again good luck and I hope to see it turn into a wonderful bonsai in the coming years.
 
Not harsh at all. I'm learning from you guy's
I love all the information you can give me. Thank you!
 
You do have to secure the tree in the pot or you will have problems.

I agree. Do as most landscape contractors do. Put a "ring" around each one of the major trunks. Ring is preferably a non abbrasive material or protect the bark. From the ring, apply guy wires (3 or more) going to your container sides. Make sure all of them are taut.
 
Wonderful looking tree. Definitely has potential. Dave has given you great advice. He grows in Minnesota, a cold climate like mine. Poink is in Texas, where summer heat is a much bigger problem than winter cold. You are in New Jersey, warmer than Minnesota, cooler than Texas. Barberry should do really well for you. It should be fully winter hardy, if it doesn't dry out you should not loose branches over the winter.

On freshly collected deciduous material, my preference is to first do root work and not worry much about the 'above ground' stuff. Generally I believe near to bare rooting collected deciduous material is the way to go. No point bringing along quantities of 'bad soil' to be a problem to be corrected later. Growing anything in a pot is an artificial system, we need to make sure there is air and water to the roots, the fine clay based nature of most 'natural' soils just does not work well in a pot, so don't bring that problem along by leaving a lot of old clay based 'dirt' on a freshly collected tree. Hose the native soil off, gently, without breaking off fine roots. If it looks like taking soil off is breaking fine roots, stop. Either switch methods of soil removal (go to using water instead of hands) or just leave the clods of collected soil.
Modest amount of native soil that is 'stuck' to the freshly collected deciduous tree, if the remaining amount is somewhere around 1/10th or so, of the total soil content of the pot, the collected soil should not be a problem. You don't have to scrub the roots clean.

Prepare the pot with sreens over drainage holes and put in place wires to tie the tree firmly into the pot.

Trim the roots back some, get rid of long roots that would have to be wound around and around in order to fit into the pot. Barberry do root from cuttings well, old wood can put out new roots, you can remove a major portion of the root system and it will grow a new one, no problem.

Put down the first layer of bonsai potting mix, place the tree, back fill to about 3/4 depth, work mix into air pockets. Fill in the voids. Then tie the tree in with the wires. Crank it down tight so it won't wobble even in a stiff breeze. Then finish filling in the potting mix.
You should not get movement when you gently try to wiggle the trunk. This is important, because movement caused by wind or squirrels or the neighbor's cat brushing against branches may cause a tree that is not tied tight to wobble in the pot, breaking all the newly forming roots, setting the tree back further and perhaps causing death of the tree. If tied in tight, by the end of the first summer you should have a nice good set of roots to carry the tree through to next Spring.

After care is important. After collecting, keep the tree in bright shade for the entire spring and into the summer. Only after you see lots of new growth would you move it into the sun. If it seems to not be doing much except making a few leaves, keep it shaded. It is growing roots. The new buds and branches won't extend much until it has enough roots to feed them. But you leave a lot of branches becuase they feed the roots. So even though you may have radically chopped the root system, I would only do a modest prune back of the branches right after collecting. Balance branches to roots some, but leave quite a bit more branches than you think the roots could support, you want there to be enough branches to send the hormonal signal to 'make roots now!' The branches will send sugars and nutrients down to the roots, so if you want a healthy root system keep a large number of branches.

Let the tree grow for a year. If you have a good bonsai potting mix you won't need to repot next spring. You have a nice mature trunk, repotting most likely won't be needed more than once every 2 or 3 years. The second year is when you can start going to town with working the branches and the rest of the tree.

Those are my thoughts. Look at the tree actually in front of you. If my advise makes sense, follow it. If you have reason to think otherwise, remember, I don't see the tree you actually have in front of you. My advice might not be on track.

About the size, 30 inches is a nice size for bonsai. Trees this big get a lot of attention at shows and exhibits. You have marvelous bark on this tree. It has presence, don't worry about it being too big. Besides, next year when you start working on refining this tree, the size will come down significantly. Don't worry about size, you have a great trunk, that's the important part.

About suckers. You have a great old trunk. Suckers compete with the trunk for water from the roots. Remove new suckers right away to keep the main trunk healthy. You might keep ones you feel are positioned right to make secondary trunks, but your main trunk is fantastic, don't need anything to distract from seeing the main trunk.
 
Barberry

Thanks a lot for taking the time to post all that information. I really appreciate it. I like all the feed back I can get. I'm pretty excited about this one. Where I collected it there is a couple more. But not as nice. Trunks aren't as thick but I'll have to take another look! I'll post pics of them. I don't have many trees but did you happen to see the boxwood I collected? Would like to see your thoughts on that one if you could! And again thanks for the post and to everybody who replys to my threads. I'm learning a lot . Can't wait for warmer weather it's in the low 40's today.
 
Nice bark!

Does anyone know if there is a Barberry variety that will thrive in zone 9?
 
So far so good!

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Boxwood and Barberry looking like there happy!
 
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Boxwood and Barberry looking like there happy!

Congrats! Avoid moving it too much! You might damage the new roots. ;)

I would have pruned it differently. Something I learned is to try and find the smallest tree from a stock. I know I posted in your other thread (boxwood probably) to keep the low branches near or at the trunk as much as possible to leave you options (options are good) too late now. Same applies here.

The height is not bad if you have no choice or if that is what you want...but I personally prefer it lower.

Good luck!
 
That is a big barberry. It looks like its 4 feet tall in the pot. Did you tie this tree into the pot ? Even if you did don't move it around is good advice. Once it's healthy you can cut it back if you like, you can look for buds or shoots low on the trunk this year. However, if you cut this tree way back it will take forever to grow a new leader because of the size.
 
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I would have pruned it differently.

I'm not sure witch one your talking about... Both trees really didnt get any pruning. I just removed the dead branches. Well, mabe a little on the boxwood but not much at all. The barberry I didn't prune at all. Just removed the dead. Boxwood is flowering now. So I'm pretty happy. They are secured in there temp. containers and also secured to there benches.
 
Need help

Newer collected Barberry showing signs of fungal disease!
Leaves new and older turning yellow and having what looks like burn holes and discoloration .
Did a little research and came up with anthracnose disease or others similar. Has any one delt with this before if so what can I do? I have some pics.

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