Blue Wilderness recall...

You know....

This is the second time they've been in the news like this right?

Pretty sure it's all marketing bullshit...
Excuse my language..

The good, the bad, and the recognizable.

We are advertised to sooooooo much...

Only the recognizable matters anymore!

I think.

Sorce
 
An article about Blue Buffalo...

I personally recommend this site for your dog food information. Though to be honest, animal feed is only indirectly regulated by the government - guidelines are developed by an industry group called AAFCO. The nutritional labeling standards leave a lot to be desired. For anyone who wants to play fast and loose with the guidelines, there is substantial wiggle room, and that is assuming that their formula matches what is actually printed on the bag. The big companies, whether you like their products or not, at least own their own production facilities. The smaller companies contract out their production - and are further removed from quality control.
 
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I have steered clear of Blue Buffalo since both my vet said she sees more than a few dogs with gastrointestinal issues when they're on the food. I had issues with gas, diarrhea, loose movements etc.

Vet said that is pretty common with the food and she sees two or three dogs a week with stomach issues from eating.

FWIW, the guy who started the brand, William Bishop, was the marketing guy behind "So-Be" soda--the soft drink with the lizard on the side of the can. Williams marketed those drinks to the high end of the market and made a lot of $$. He sold that company and looked for another "high-end, profitable market" to enter. He saw pet food becoming a specialized, pricey "boutique" market where people are willing to part with large sums of cash for something they really know nothing about.
He made the brand and farmed out production of the actual food to a contractor.

Last year, Williams settled a false advertising claims suit to pet food giant Nestle Purina, as well as paying out $32 million in a class action suit. Both cases had to do with blue Buffalo claiming it used "the finest natural ingredients." A lab analysis by Purina in 2014 had showed Blue Buffalo food contained poultry by-products, corn and artificial preservatives

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2016/11/04/purina-and-blue-buffalo-settle-lawsuits.html
 
My breeder I got Ahsoka from...threw a fit. We used to feed our senior bulldogs the brand listed in this thread. Being co-owned...we switched foods. I have seen a number of recalls with that brand a lot. I am glad she had us switch.
 
My friend just had to put their dog down. I know they fed the recalled brand. I am afraid to ask them if it was their dog food. It may have been a coincidence.
 
When I was first out of college, I used to work in the pet food industry. It is a fascinating business because on one hand you are dealing with the challenges of making a quality product while on the other hand the buyer is not the consumer - and they have a strong emotional attachment to their pet and the purchasing decision.

When the pet food industry was first starting up the big producers were all human food companies - particularly millers - who would make pet food with by-products from their milling operations. Purina Mills, Quaker, etc. There was less of a question about ingredient quality because for the most part the company was using its own human grade by-products (corn, wheat and oat flour that was a "by-product" in the production of cornmeal, grits, oatmeal, etc). They also owned their own production facilities, employed their own quality control scientists, and in some cases had their own kennels for palatability and nutritional testing.

Now most of the "speciality brands" come from contract production, and worse yet, the ingredients come from a global commodities market where it is very difficult to 100% ascertain exactly where the commodity is coming from. I was reading an article last night about how, according to Walmart, 100% of all chicken that they source in China for human consumption is at least partly sourced outside of their approved supply chain - from farms and farmers who may or may not abide by their standards. The corruption is so ubiquitous that they are testing blockchain technology (the same encryption technology used to secure Bitcoin) to give every single chicken product sourced in China a unique digital fingerprint so that you can scan it at the end of the supply chain (the retail store) and instantly know every single participant in the entire supply chain all the way back to the farm.

Until they can guarantee the security of food supply chains outside of this country, I put a premium on "Made in America" farm goods - or countries who can guarantee similar food quality control in their supply chains. It is not always the producers who are at fault; they contract for a certain ingredient and they pay for it and are supposed to receive it. However there is currently a quantitative quality gap between commodities sourced from one country versus the same commodity sourced from another country - and the contract manufacturers will often go with the cheaper source without asking the question "why is it cheaper?".

We had a dog that died after eating chicken jerky treats sold at CostCo that were made in China. It was a big enough issue that CostCo recalled the product, we got a warning in the mail (too late in our case) and a follow-up questionnaire from the FDA.
 
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Thanks for posting this.

We dont use this brand, but I do remember incidents where dogs died from bad food where the ingredients were sorced from China.

I am also in with BNUT on the Made in America when it comes to food.
There are just too many cases of toxic crap getting into things from China or elsewhere to be comfortable with outside sourced food.
 
After a company tries to market themselves as something better and different, then gets busted using crap ingredients.....I instantly lose all respect, and they lose all credibility....
Won't touch the stuff ..... Frauds.
 
M. Frary said:
This is why you feed your dogs people.
The healthy food nut jogger types are best.
Then the UPS guy.
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Stick with the health food nuts. Who knows what the UPS guy might have in his system plus all the road fumes they breathe . Seriously, have you seen some of those guys?
 
Bonsai Nut said:
An article about Blue Buffalo...
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Great article! I've been selling dog food for over forty years and Blue Buffalo's marketing strategy rivals that of P.T Barnum's. "There's a sucker born every minute". Gotta hand it to Bishop though. He shrewdly realized that if you market something that is egregiously over-priced, a large number of consumers will assume that since its the most expensive it must be the best. What B.S,. Very few people come into my store looking for Blue Buffalo without leaving with a better insight into what Blue Buffalo is and usually with a better value and higher quality food.
 
CasAH said:
Fed my dog the dry puppy version of this from Blue Buffalo.
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Switched over to this because the wife did not like the smell of the puppy's poop with the last food. His poops to not smell as bad now, but it would not be an issue if the wife and daughter let the puppy out once in a while.
 
Paradox said:
Stick with the health food nuts. Who knows what the UPS guy might have in his system plus all the road fumes they breathe . Seriously, have you seen some of those guys?
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Our UPS guy is in great health.
Rupert already tested his speed.
He ought to be an Olympic sprinter from what I saw.
 
M. Frary said:
Our UPS guy is in great health.
Rupert already tested his speed.
He ought to be an Olympic sprinter from what I saw.
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Most here seem to be in good shape, but there are some that would be, shall we say, a high fat content meal.
 
Lifetime dog owner - and parents part time dog raisers/home breeders wayyyyy back. Lots of breeds - great danes, Goldens, Rhodesian ridgeback, frenchie, and mutts. These days I would swear by Orijen and their Acana formula. Canadian company sourced all locally been rated the best overall foods for at least the last 5 or 6 years. Great stuff. My current french bulldog is on it - never seen a healthier animal in my life. So much better than the foods in the old days.
 
I feed Taste of the Wild...breeder wasn't thrilled with it a Diamond product. But preferred it over Blue Buffalo. But our vet fed her dogs it. Actually the entire vet practice fed the brand. So it's what had me switching. Fromm I hear is good...but the bulldog pups couldn't handle their puppy food. It was to rich...

I do not buy dog biscuits...my dogs get granolia bars. I feel they are safer being made for humans.
 
Cadillactaste said:
I feed Taste of the Wild...breeder wasn't thrilled with it a Diamond product. But preferred it over Blue Buffalo. But our vet fed her dogs it. Actually the entire vet practice fed the brand. So it's what had me switching. Fromm I hear is good...but the bulldog pups couldn't handle their puppy food. It was to rich...

I do not buy dog biscuits...my dogs get granolia bars. I feel they are safer being made for humans.
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This is what I was feeding the puppy when the poops stank up the whole house.
 
CasAH said:
This is what I was feeding the puppy when the poops stank up the whole house.
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Lol which variety? We do the Pacific brand...it helped our senior bulldog with serious allergies. He was scheduled to see an allergist before switching. Cleared up all his issues.

Set a timer for the puppy. Ours never pooped in the house and we had two we brought home.
 
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