Dav4
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Yeah, but there's always a silver lining, Vance...when your GM brand vehicle breaks down (and you know it will) you will have the United States Gov't there to fix it...
Dave
Bonsai Forums Selling Out
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Yeah, but there's always a silver lining, Vance...when your GM brand vehicle breaks down (and you know it will) you will have the United States Gov't there to fix it...
Dave
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
For reference, see this link. I was actually a marketing manager at Taco Bell when we pulled off this stunt I still have a copy of the single ad we ran in USA Today. For the cost of a $100,000 ad, we generated millions in brand equity
I still have a copy of the single ad we ran in USA Today. For the cost of a $100,000 ad, we generated millions in brand equity 
Yeah, but there's always a silver lining, Vance...when your GM brand vehicle breaks down (and you know it will) you will have the United States Gov't there to fix it...
Dave
Yep, and without the government there to fix it, it would never get fixed.......there would be no GM.
Anonymous User
Banned
For reference, see this link. I was actually a marketing manager at Taco Bell when we pulled off this stunt
I remember that, that was indeed good!
Will
TheSteve
Chumono
... I sure hope there will be a trial period so one can examine the merits of the content. e.g is it worth a buck. There is a site in the UK that uses this format???
You would be refering to www.bonsaihelp.co.uk I'm fairly close to this forum and can say that it's been selling subscriptions for four years now and I've been with it through it's various existences for six or seven years now. The reason it works is (no offense almighty nut) none of the sh*t that goes on here and Btalk, etc happens there. Since people have a stake in the site they keep it clean and productive. There may be no headliners there but there are some great people.
No this wasn't a defense or sales pitch, I don't own the site or make a dime, but this isn't the first reference to it on here and I thought I should clear the air.
Will, any coffee flying through the nasals yet?
emorrin
Sapling
I can second what Steve says because I am also a member of that bonsai forum. There are no politics, flames wars, etc. going on there, just people helping other people out.
I subscribe to several forums but I call bonsaihelp home. Don't get me wrong, there are great people on most forums with good advice, it is just the crap that ruins it for me. Maybe paying a small fee is the way to go. Other than that site, I know of one other site that all the flame wars do not occur. It is based more for beginners but people there are also nice as well.
I subscribe to several forums but I call bonsaihelp home. Don't get me wrong, there are great people on most forums with good advice, it is just the crap that ruins it for me. Maybe paying a small fee is the way to go. Other than that site, I know of one other site that all the flame wars do not occur. It is based more for beginners but people there are also nice as well.
Anonymous User
Banned
Fees have nothing to do with it, there are other forums such as Bsite, IBC, IBF, AoB, and KoB where the crap doesn't happen either, it's not the pay for view, it's the moderation that stops the crap before it starts.
As far as paying for content, most sites have donation drives and/or advertising that help pay for expenses, some ads are tastefully done, but on some forums the flashing banner ads, pop-ups, redirects, and other ads are distracting. On these sites, you pay, just not by sending money.
As far as bonsai help goes, I see nothing there that isn't on other free forums, certainly nothing worth spending money on. This is not to say there isn't some good content there, just that why pay for what can be had for free elsewhere? Basically, as with most forums, it is discussion based and the same people there are posting on other discussion forums as well.
Will
As far as paying for content, most sites have donation drives and/or advertising that help pay for expenses, some ads are tastefully done, but on some forums the flashing banner ads, pop-ups, redirects, and other ads are distracting. On these sites, you pay, just not by sending money.
As far as bonsai help goes, I see nothing there that isn't on other free forums, certainly nothing worth spending money on. This is not to say there isn't some good content there, just that why pay for what can be had for free elsewhere? Basically, as with most forums, it is discussion based and the same people there are posting on other discussion forums as well.
Will
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
That has been my opinion, if not voiced point of view, which goes back to the old proverb: "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?"
Rick Moquin
Omono
I didn't put down the site Steve and I'm glad it works for you. I just like to see what I purchase.
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
I thought it was a great joke. I decided to play along because Brett totally got me at first. I was really angry.
Every year someone gets me. I am such an airhead that I forget what day it is.
Oh well, nice one Brett!
Every year someone gets me. I am such an airhead that I forget what day it is.
Oh well, nice one Brett!
Anonymous User
Banned
Yeah, it was fun, I played along, even obviously knowing better since two of the forums mentioned I am involved in.
Will
Will
nsmar4211
Sapling
Playing along is part of the fun, wait and see who doesn't figure out what day it is ........
TheSteve
Chumono
You're wrong on the moderation part Will. I'm a moderator there. I can't remember the last time I had to step in to break something up. The people really do police themselves. I spend the bulk of my moderator time moving posts into appropriate places.
Vance Wood
Lord Mugo
Which "There" are you talking about. I can tell you the AoB and KoB's moderators don't have a big problem now because the pattern has been set. Most people know that if they start slinging hash they are gone----so none of that happens---now. It did have a couple of occurrences early on.
Anonymous User
Banned
You misunderstood my post, I didn't say there wasn't moderation at Bhelp, what I said was that fees have nothing to do with the environment.
"Fees have nothing to do with it, there are other forums such as Bsite, IBC, IBF, AoB, and KoB where the crap doesn't happen either, it's not the pay for view, it's the moderation that stops the crap before it starts."
Will
milehigh_7
Mister 500,000
I still say it was a great April Fool's joke
Anonymous User
Banned
I liked it as well, good job.
Will
Will
