Defra's Black Pine Contest Entry

[petegreg]

Nice success rate.
And thank Anthony you checked your fridge for pudding, right? ?

 

[defra]

All the cuttings seem to be still Alive
Tried to carefully pull one out but it didnt move so i guess they have rooted by now!

 

[defra]

My son his seedling is the biggest hes gonna so beat me



Babybending a few like this

 

[defra]

Made my first 10 € on this contest already
Some fella was looking for some jbp seedlings so sold 10 for 1€ each and send it his way almost got my costs i put into this back lol !

Roots of the cuttings looked great of the ones i potted up and sold !

 

[Fonz]

Made my first 10 € on this contest already
Some fella was looking for some jbp seedlings so sold 10 for 1€ each and send it his way almost got my costs i put into this back lol !

Roots of the cuttings looked great of the ones i potted up and sold !

Yeah, he didn't want mine, lucky you

$10, that would cover about 1/10th of my costs so far

 

[TooCoys]

So I guess I missed something along the way... why do you cut the roots off the seedlings just to re-root them? Whats the purpose?

 

[defra]

So I guess I missed something along the way... why do you cut the roots off the seedlings just to re-root them? Whats the purpose?

To keep the growth lower to the soil from the start and radial roots i think it was and just to try it out

 

[defra]

No pics of all the seedlings but these couple shots ressemble the lot i guess all looking about the same these were all root cuttings.
I got about 20 left but looking at the results of other people mine are way behind perhaps something to do with climate ?

 

[my nellie]

... ...but looking at the results of other people mine are way behind perhaps something to do with climate ?

Mine are also way behind.
However, Greece's climate is different than the Netherlands.

 

[River's Edge]

R

Mine are also way behind.
However, Greece's climate is different than the Netherlands.

Radial cutting slows the progress, not everyone took that step! Sun, water, fertilizer, watch them go crazy this summer! Almost seems to slow them down by a year, but the advanced root system helps them catch up faster!

 

[my nellie]

... ...Sun, water, fertilizer, watch them go crazy this summer!

Thank you for the encouragement, Frank!

 

[Clicio]

Mine are also way behind.
However, Greece's climate is different than the Netherlands.

So are mine, but I am six months behind comparing to the northern hemisphere...

 

[my nellie]

So are mine, but I am six months behind comparing to the northern hemisphere...

Indeed, I am also 3 full months behind compared to those who planted their seeds in January. I planted mine in May.

 

[defra]

thnx @River's Edge i hope your right
we will see i got fertilizer ready, last year i did not fertilize much because was scared of damaging the roots since i made the root cuttings

 

[River's Edge]

thnx @River's Edge i hope your right
we will see i got fertilizer ready, last year i did not fertilize much because was scared of damaging the roots since i made the root cuttings

I understand, the oft repeated commentary sometimes is given more weight than the actual circumstances. Particularily in Bonsai there seems to be a a mountain of anecdotal advice to wade through in search of the nuggets of truth. If you are using a free draining mix with little organic content, then you are free to ensure lots of water and nutrients. I prefer low number organic in a super feed regimen. Start slow and build up the dose over time. Then stick with it until late summer. Begin again in very early spring. Middle of march for my location.
I have also found slow release osmocote type products effective in my circumstances. Also in lower number configuration.

 

[DirkvanDreven]

".....anecdotal advice to wade through in search of the nuggets of truth."

Great. I like this comment

 

[defra]

Guess about time I update this
Lost quite a few seedlings there was a storm going on when I was at work it blew half of my seedlings behind my bench were I cannot grab them anymore so these in the pic is what I have left the two bigger ones weren't used as cuttings
Not sure why but they seem to grow slowly

 

[Fonz]

Never got to buy you that beer at the last Trophy, maybe I can bring some of my seedlings the next edition. I still have way too many

 

[River's Edge]

Guess about time I update this
Lost quite a few seedlings there was a storm going on when I was at work it blew half of my seedlings behind my bench were I cannot grab them anymore so these in the pic is what I have left the two bigger ones weren't used as cuttings
Not sure why but they seem to grow slowly

I would suggest larger containers with a substrate that holds a bit more moisture and nutrients. Just so long as they do not sit in water for any period of time. At this stage they respond to frequent watering and available nutrients. Difficult to do while working. Much easier when retired! For example my trees at this stage are watered twice a day and receive two tablespoons of organic fertiliser on top of the substrate beginning in March, refreshed and maintained through till the end of September! Full sun!

 

[DirkvanDreven]

I would suggest larger containers with a substrate that holds a bit more moisture and nutrients. Just so long as they do not sit in water for any period of time. At this stage they respond to frequent watering and available nutrients. Difficult to do while working. Much easier when retired! For example my trees at this stage are watered twice a day and receive two tablespoons of organic fertiliser on top of the substrate beginning in March, refreshed and maintained through till the end of September! Full sun!

In our climate, Frank, we need to use smaller containers, if we want to water (and fertilise) twice a day. I'm going to repot next spring into Tokoname trainingspots, size 3.5 or 4. Two of them are already in these, and they seem to like it. Pond basket's are out for me to big and stays wet far to long.