DeSojo and other cuttings from us source?

[jdutton24]

I just got a shin DeSojo, I wired up while in the pot and trimmed a few branches and I'm attempted to root these cuttings. I see you can buy them and other sought after cultivars from Canada bonsai but since it's Canada the shipping costs and other USDA requirements make it extremely prohibitable monetarily speaking.

Why doesn't anyone in the states do this? I dunno how successful I'll be but I have about 10-15 cuttings and if I get 5 I'll be ecstatic..

 

[Piedmont Bonsai]

I just got a shin DeSojo, I wired up while in the pot and trimmed a few branches and I'm attempted to root these cuttings. I see you can buy them and other sought after cultivars from Canada bonsai but since it's Canada the shipping costs and other USDA requirements make it extremely prohibitable monetarily speaking.

Why doesn't anyone in the states do this? I dunno how successful I'll be but I have about 10-15 cuttings and if I get 5 I'll be ecstatic..

It’s in the works but these things don’t happen over night. It really takes a few years to be able to meet demand and of course any time you deal with living plants things can happen to delay the process.

It’s important to point out that Shin Deshojo is actually quite different from the tried and true deshojo as well.

 

[jdutton24]

It’s in the works but these things don’t happen over night. It really takes a few years to be able to meet demand and of course any time you deal with living plants things can happen to delay the process.

It’s important to point out that Shin Deshojo is actually quite different from the tried and true deshojo as well.

I know what you mean and agree. It's just feels like a bit of a missed opportunity here in the states. Shin DeSojo has been popular for years here though.

 

[nuttiest]

Don't JM cuttings need to be grafted to have stability?

 

[Mats Hagström]

Brent at https://www.evergreengardenworks.com/ has been propagating cuttings for years. He sells out fast of the popular varieties. Personally I bought a bigger garden tree and air layers material.

 

[leatherback]

Don't JM cuttings need to be grafted to have stability?

no. That is a myth for most varieties. They are grafted because of ease of propagation, and better resilience to different soils (and in some cases, reduced fungal / bacterial infection risk).
All my maples are on their own roots, except for my Seigen.

 

[nuttiest]

better resilience to different soils (and in some cases, reduced fungal / bacterial infection risk).

stability

 

[leatherback]

stability

Whatever Mr Argumentative.
Have a ball. Go and grow only grafted maples because they cannot be on their own roots.
Enjoy your smooth-rooted arakawa maple grafts.

 

[nuttiest]

No one will believe your maples are real if they are own root.

 

[jdutton24]

No one will believe your maples are real if they are own root.

Wtf lol

 

[leatherback]

Wtf lol

Don't worry about it.
This person has a problem with me ever since I recommended them to should check the way they care for the trees if they has so many problems with tree health. Ever since the only thing they can do is be argumentative and make counter posts to whatever I post in a thread.

 

[nuttiest]

This person has a problem with me ever since

I had a problem because you were mean a few times when I first joined here, I ignored it 3 times and yeah first time I yelled was just before when I lost my own 'stability'.
But last time it looked like you were making fun of me for purchasing the same plant I killed and I was pissed because you said it AFTER I went and bought a new one and posted it.
Today no, not arguing with you it was hilarious that you said no, then described the very reason I was talking about.
I DO see the problem with arakawa though, thanks for pointing it out.

 

[leatherback]

I had a problem because you were mean a few times when I first joined here, I ignored it 3 times and yeah first time I yelled was just before when I lost my own 'stability'.

not telling someone they are so pretty and what they are doing is great is not mean. It is just giving people information that what they are doing is not working.
Accept that some people just have done this longer, and more quickly can point out where things go wrong.
I do not make fun of people.

It is all in your mind.
Get over yourself.

 

[nuttiest]

It is all in your mind.
Get over yourself.

Whatever there is a search feature you can probably still find what you said.
Mr Dismissive eeennh

 

[Daniel son STL]

It’s important to point out that Shin Deshojo is actually quite different from the tried and true deshojo as well.

Well it is improved. From what I have gathered the main difference is shin deshojo stays red longer in spring.

 

[Piedmont Bonsai]

Well it is improved. From what I have gathered the main difference is shin deshojo stays red longer in spring.

Improved in what way?
Deshojo last just as long or longer for me. The growth habit of shin deshojo is somewhat different than deshojo. I think the only draw for Shin deshojo was that it was available while Deshojo was harder to find. Now Deshojo is somewhat common in the US so for bonsai purposes it really is better.