GrimLore
Bonsai Nut alumnus... we miss you
I'm also leaving out my winged Elm from VA.
If anyone wants to make bets!
My Winged Elm came from AL in April. No intention of bringing it in or even moving it

Grimmy
I'm also leaving out my winged Elm from VA.
If anyone wants to make bets!
My Winged Elm came from AL in April. No intention of bringing it in or even moving itHave had a few decent frosts, pot is on the ground frozen and it is just starting to slowly show Fall color. Elm tough!
Grimmy
Ohhhh your winged elm...I heard they don't like to go below 20 didn't someone mention here? Mine is in the greenhouse already. With hitting the teens already at night. Living at the lake...it is ten degrees colder...so temps in the 30's they stay tucked away...anything lower than what I set my temperature for the greenhouse at...I don't do any dance with them. Watching to see if we warm up enough to bring them back out at all...but...as of now. Not yet.Mine was kicking it so we'll see what winter does.
I'm also leaving out my winged Elm from VA.
If anyone wants to make bets!
Sorce
I tested temperatures on my porch (just moved in recently) during this cold event. The porch is an open air screen porch that is in-set and the outer wall is screen. It easily stays 5-7 degrees warmer than under open sky since the space is mostly contained in a very well heated building, despite it being open air. Water outside was freezing by 7:00pm the night before, but a small bowl of water I put out on the porch didn't even get a glaze of ice by morning despite lows well into the teens. This difference between the porch and outside may be less midwinter. Point being, open air porches on/in heated buildings can stay quite a bit warmer than outside under open sky.
As far as a large tub of mulch on the floor of the porch, in zones 7-8, this might be a good way to moderate temperature fluctuations as well as minimize root exposure to temperatures below 25F. Rockm, how many days per year would you say you have on average with calendar days highs below 32F? 3-4?
My point is, as far as zone 7-8 is concerned and considering porches/balconies tend to be slightly warmer than ambient, a large tub of mulch may actually be enough protection during a normal winter. Maybe not though, will take some trial and error.
My mulch tubs outside at the house are going to go flat on the ground near a building to take advantage of heat from the ground. I plan to take temperature measurements and I will post my results here.
Ohhhh your winged elm...I heard they don't like to go below 20 didn't someone mention here?
Tough call. Depends on the tree health, source, and other things. Info varies on them a bit, some say zone 5, some say 6. Myself if healthy and established I see no reason they could not do ok in 5, on the ground.
Grimmy
I should have added that if you're using this box on a porch or other area, you might just as well skip it. It's not going to do anything. You can't conserve heat that isn't there...Um, no, 3-4 days with highs below 32 would be a very unusual winter. We get sub zero nights and stings of days in the 20's all through late January into Feb. The point is, this tub filled with mulch is inadequate because those cold temps surround the plant on all sides. It offers no protection at all.
I've found this is risky thinking with southern-collected trees in more northern areas.Tough call. Depends on the tree health, source, and other things. Info varies on them a bit, some say zone 5, some say 6. Myself if healthy and established I see no reason they could not do ok in 5, on the ground.
Grimmy
I've found this is risky thinking with southern-collected trees in more northern areas.
How Much straw (deep - inches/width)? I’ve been reading this thread, trying to plan early for winter. I’m mainly worried about my bald cypress trees (from Georgia).I use straw.
Still trying to wrap my head around winterizing a cascade where the plant drops below the bottom of the pot. Worried about the foliage touching the ground (juniper, nana?).
That is sounding better and better every year!pffft forget all that 'wintering' nonsense, just move to Australia and you'll never have to deal with winter again. Its winter here at the moment and today we should hit around 70f in the middle of the day, it is sensational![]()