Distinguishing Kingsville from other boxwood, am I being scammed?

[Ali Bubba]

Hey everyone. Just picked up a couple more boxwood, supposedly kingsville. Problem is, the texture of the foliage is nothing like the ones I already have. They're young and healthy, but the leaves are very soft and inconsistent in size, and to me don't even seem to be the right shape.... Some leaves are elongated. The kingsville I have are of exceedingly uniform leaf size and have a borderline plastic appearance and feel to the leaves, they're not all soft and delicate. Are these kingsville, or am I getting scammed? The first photo is one of my kingsville, followed by 3 pics of the new ones. Thanks.

 

[rockm]

I don't think it's "real" Kingsville. Leaves are a bit to elongated and not tight enough together.

Most likely another dwarf variety. FWIW, all the small leaved boxwood varieties are constantly confused with one another. Kingsville has become a marketing tool, as it has a history in bonsai. In the end, doesn't make all that much difference. It's a difference of degrees, really. All the small leaved cultivars make good bonsai. Kingsville just has the smallest leaves (which are tightly congested on the stem--which makes them a pain in the ass to thin out.)

 

[shimbrypaku]

So I’m no expert, just a guy growing plants and trying to create bonsai’s.

This is a kingsville from a reputable seller.

 

[shimbrypaku]

Now here is a Hoffmann dwarf from the same seller next to the kingsville boxwood.

This is the leaf size difference on my two.

Thanks

 

[Ali Bubba]

So I’m no expert, just a guy growing plant and try to create bonsai’s.

This is a kingsville from a reputable seller.

Yes, exactly like the ones I have, and nothing like the ones I just received. Thanks so much. Who is the seller, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[shimbrypaku]

I will PM you

Thanks

 

[BrightsideB]

The first picture looks much more like one. The others look different.

 

[River's Edge]

Hey everyone. Just picked up a couple more boxwood, supposedly kingsville. Problem is, the texture of the foliage is nothing like the ones I already have. They're young and healthy, but the leaves are very soft and inconsistent in size, and to me don't even seem to be the right shape.... Some leaves are elongated. The kingsville I have are of exceedingly uniform leaf size and have a borderline plastic appearance and feel to the leaves, they're not all soft and delicate. Are these kingsville, or am I getting scammed? The first photo is one of my kingsville, followed by 3 pics of the new ones. Thanks.

The shape and comparative leaf size of the boxwood you received are " unlike the Kingsville boxwood" . I suspect they have been misidentified. Kingsville leaves are easily distinguished by the short pointed oval appearance as in this photo of my Kingsville bonsai.

 

[shimbrypaku]

The first picture looks much more like one. The others look different.

Thanks for your input, I will let the seller know my kingsville is a fake.

Thanks

 

[BrightsideB]

Thanks for your input, I will let the seller know my kingsville is a fake.

Thanks

I was replying to @Ali Bubba pics

 

[shimbrypaku]

Same seller,
Morris midget next to a kingsville.
The morris midget came to me in real bad shape, didn’t think it would live.

Two years on the bench now.

Thanks

 

[shimbrypaku]

I was replying to @Ali Bubba pics

Sorry about that,

Thanks

 

[BrightsideB]

Sorry about that,

Thanks

Sometimes I just say stuff without distinguishing who to lol I gotta get better at that. Your kingsvilles are looking good, I have only one and it’s in the ground.

 

[shimbrypaku]

Thanks
My large one is said to be 30 years old at time of purchase, I think I purchased it in 2017.

Here is a picture when I received it.
Thanks

 

[Ali Bubba]

The first picture looks much more like one. The others look different.

Yeah, the first one is one of mine. I just had a conversation with the seller about it, and sent him the same pics, he seemed to genuinely have no idea. Apparently they're sold by one of his growers as kingsville and he's never actually seen one. At any rate, quick refund. I appreciate the feedback.

 

[BonsaiDTLA]

Yeah, the first one is one of mine. I just had a conversation with the seller about it, and sent him the same pics, he seemed to genuinely have no idea. Apparently they're sold by one of his growers as kingsville and he's never actually seen one. At any rate, quick refund. I appreciate the feedback.

refund but you get the keep the tree? if so, wow nice seller

 

[bwaynef]

Check out buxus harlandii.

 

[Hack Yeah!]

Kingsville will revert back to larger foliage. You have to keep the larger new growth stems at bay. I could easily see someone taking cuttings from the new growth and not knowing the difference.

@Ali Bubba if you removed the outer growth do the inner leaves look smaller?

 

[rodeolthr]

As @Hack Yeah! said, I have Kingsville in the ground, and it often sends out sports that are different from the selection.

 

[shimbrypaku]

Agree,
You need to keep on top of pinching or cutting back on new large growth.

Thanks