Hawthorn#2

you've been busy, my friend!
Awesome
Thanks Max. Years working at a nursery helps so much when it comes to digging trees. It usually takes me 10 minutes or less to get a tree out of the ground.
Next week I check out the new reciprocating saw. Got a whole field of hawthorns to go digging in. This one is one growing by all the tamaracks and got dug out in the collecting frenzy.
 
I really like.this one.

I read that Hawthorne is really hard to collect do to not taking well to the roots being mest with. Have.you had any problems with them? Or are they easy going?
 
I really like.this one.

I read that Hawthorne is really hard to collect do to not taking well to the roots being mest with. Have.you had any problems with them? Or are they easy going?
They seem pretty easy to collect and survive. I haven't had one die yet. We will see how these go. I hardly got any usable roots. It was growing in very loose sand.
 
That's good to know. I have like 3 or 4 more in my back yard... I thought they were all crab apples. I'll be garbed a few to night.
 
Nice start, good work! Sounds like you have a bunch to dig.
 
wow thats a good one.

did you leave all the extra to help it recover / hedging against die back, or are you planning using all that in the design?

I have a nice trunk I dug in December last year and plunked it in my garden bed, starting to show buds up the trunk now.

have you gotten any hornbeam on your expeditions yet? seems like its too late to get them now, down here by me at least. All 5 of my hornbeam are alive and budding, but all had buds on them when they were collected, including one I dug in mid January, but its in the garden bed.
 
wow thats a good one.

did you leave all the extra to help it recover / hedging against die back, or are you planning using all that in the design?

I have a nice trunk I dug in December last year and plunked it in my garden bed, starting to show buds up the trunk now.

have you gotten any hornbeam on your expeditions yet? seems like its too late to get them now, down here by me at least. All 5 of my hornbeam are alive and budding, but all had buds on them when they were collected, including one I dug in mid January, but its in the garden bed.
It isn't too late here. I like the way this tree looks but it does need to be shorter I think. I left the branching on because there isn't much and it will look cool if it gets blooms this year. It did last year.
I need to get some hornbeams out. I got some staked out and will be getting them this weekend. Both kinds.
 
I've never been able to tell the difference. Got an easy way for me to pick it up??

old hop hornbeam are easy to tell, the bark looks all ruff like an elm, younger ones not sure, but the carolina's smoothe bark is pretty easy to differentiate.. although I have recently found out about the cork bark elm.. actually looks pretty similar to Carolina in some instances... that is if you are only looking at the lower trunk.
 
and actually its not too late to collect carolina down here , im sure its still a good time, but with my new data this year with 5/5 collecting super early, its just outside my new ideal time frame for them. but hell I might grab another one just to find out. im thinking about making a collected seedling elm, hornbeam, beech, maple, hack,berry, maybe throw an ash in there... forest thing.. prob will be ugly. sounds fun in my head though.
 
I've never been able to tell the difference. Got an easy way for me to pick it up??
This is a Hops hornbeam. I don't have a picture of American but they are rarely over 8" in diameter. They they are under story trees. They live under larger decidious trees that like wetter areas like white ash,bambigiglian (swamp popel) and black willow. They have thin grey bark almost like a beech. They have muscular looking trunks and fine twigs.IMG_20140607_165631_612.jpg
 
went in the woods last night, every single american hornbeam in the woods buds has popped, going by zach smith's advice, it is too late to collect them actually, by me. So you better get them sooner than later, I bet they will be popping soon in Mio.
 
I collected mine as Zach advised on his blog. All mine survived and have buds popping. Some in process, while others have young branches now.
 
I collected mine as Zach advised on his blog. All mine survived and have buds popping. Some in process, while others have young branches now.

yea its tuff to use the winter collection methods Zach uses for us Michiganders, but I was able to nab one in winter, and the others just very early spring, and it seems to be the best time, as opposed to right before bud burst or bud extension which is said to be best with other deciduous. I also think finding some with branches and buds on them and not just a bare trunk greatly increases the chances of survival.
 
From my observation Hawthorn I collected that had branches left on them sprouted leaves about a month later than ones that I chopped to just a stump. I can't comment on the chances of survival as I've only done this once. I reduced roots a lot more on the stumps than the others.
 
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