Japanese and Chinese Quinces - Thorns?

[Clicio]

Karin, I've heard it before, brought me to Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudocydonia... and Karin is how it's called in Japan.

And the confusion has no end, (as quoted from wikipedia):
"Not to be confused with Chaenomeles speciosa, Chinese flowering quince, which, like P. sinensis, is sometimes called mugua.
Pseudocydonia sinensis, the Chinese quince, ... ... is closely related to the east Asian genus Chaenomeles, and is sometimes placed in Chaenomeles as C. sinensis..."

 

[Clicio]

Having had both Japanese...and Chinese quince...seeing first hand leaf pattern. I just don't see a Chinese variety there. The bloom is off...the leaf in clusters. But the bloom is stunning!

Thanks, @Cadillactaste, @Brian Van Fleet @theone420 , this is my guess also.
Most probably mine is a young Japanese Quince with red flowers, and was wrongly mislabeled as Chines Quince (Karin).

 

[Cadillactaste]

Here is a Blog from Jonas a VERY RELIABLE source. You can see the foliage of a young Chinese quince and how it grows on a young branch here on this link. This will shed any doubt you may have.
https://bonsaitonight.com/2017/11/14/fall-cutback-young-chinese-quince/

 

[Clicio]

Here is a Blog from Jonas a VERY RELIABLE source.

Very good, thank you.
It is really completely different from the Japanese Quince!

 

[Brian Van Fleet]

Japanese Quince on the left, Chinese Quince on the right.

This Japanese Quince is a Chojubai, so it is super small. Yours appears more like a Toyo Nishiki, or one of the larger-scale chaenomeles. Some reading material:

http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/carpinus.htm
http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/quince.htm

Japanese Quince are easier to grow, train, and keep healthy than Chinese Quince, from my experience.

 

[Clicio]

Some reading material:
http://www.evergreengardenworks.com/carpinus.htm

Brian, thank you for the pictures, and for the links. Very enlightening material!

 

[Hermes33]

It’s all how you choose to use it. More research on your own sounds like a good plan for you, since you seem to have a problem with those who speak with authority around here.

 

[leatherback]

nearly 5 year old thread ?

 

[Maiden69]

nearly 5 year old thread ?

Well you know... brand new member doing diligent duties calling out un-respectful behavior. SJW they call them around here...

 

[Clicio]

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[HamburgerTrain]

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While we’re here, @Clicio, have you done anything interesting with these plants?
Quince are some of my favorite plants in the garden! I have chojubai, toyo nishiki, and Texas scarlet. Both your plants look like different types of Toyo to me.
You do such beautiful work I’m curious to see how you treat them. Maybe you already have another thread you could link?
I love how easy they are to propagate, so far only cuttings no root cuttings, they are extremely vigorous, and of course the abundance of flowers throughout the seasons.

 

[Clicio]

While we’re here, @Clicio, have you done anything interesting with these plants?
Quince are some of my favorite plants in the garden! I have chojubai, toyo nishiki, and Texas scarlet. Both your plants look like different types of Toyo to me.
You do such beautiful work I’m curious to see how you treat them. Maybe you already have another thread you could link?
I love how easy they are to propagate, so far only cuttings no root cuttings, they are extremely vigorous, and of course the abundance of flowers throughout the seasons.

Yeap, after 5 years I have learned one or two things about them.
They like water.
They don't like the Brazilian summers.
I still love them!

 

[Clicio]

Yeap, after 5 years I have learned one or two things about them.
They like water.
They don't like the Brazilian summers.
I still love them!

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[HamburgerTrain]

Oh wow that’s a really nice clump you got going! Thank you so much for sharing

 

[Hermes33]

nearly 5 year old thread ?

Any updated pics after 5 years?? I was replying to the aggression in an initial post not the post itself but I guess that is normal here lol. I just got a quince so was browsing for information. I'll post mine in 5 years here lol.

 

[Hermes33]

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Wow never mind... here's the pic. Looks great!

 

[Leprous Garden]

Charnoneles is one of the most beautiful plants I have seen. That red, not quite cherry, slightly pink but still clearly red, that is my favorite color for them. Incredible shrubs when grown up.