JBP Progression....Old school

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This pine was not field grown. It was raised in pots as space was a limitation. Of course that's basically the way the' large trunk/small profile'25July JBP progression copy.jpg is created, excepting yamadori. Here's a few views along the way. The nebari is smaller than it 'should' be according to general 'best' proportions. Yet as a small 'tree in a pot' it is what it is for now....
 
Beautiful, well proportioned tree, Vance. How tall is it? Taller than a shohin? It's nice to see a small tree of elegant design instead of the ugly-ass squat, sumo style trees that are unnatural, and repetitively boring, IMHO.
 
HI, New Mexico Bonsai,
It' is 13" from the rim to top of the needles, so yes just a bit taller. (however I think the needle reduction program will bring it down about an inch and yes the pot is nearly 3" which it does not need)
And Yes, When you look at the genre of what is not 'in style' with bonsai, the sumo heavy trunk with a "Pomeranian" canopy with non-visible branch system is much the norm and preferred*.
Certainly this little fella with more age will develop a heavier proportional nebari and trunk but again, it's a process of time.

* I recall about 30yrs ago at the Midwest show, Ivan Watters, God rest his soul, a fine bonsai instructor and vendor had bought a few shohin size sumo pieces from overseas for big dollars....yes they're very interesting. They were in-ground grown for years and massive truck chops along with grafts to create that crown, but that is all commercial.
I'm a 'hobbyist' who took a serious study in this Art and frankly I just don't give a damn. I do appreciate the sumo's and sure they're a delight to have but heck when I started I was a broke college grad who would look to find seedlings .....of which I put a few in the ground to grow fat trunks but not to be come sumo style. Below is one....nearly 50yrs in the making.
Sure it needs some further development with possibly shortening the left hand side branch a tad...and obviously other details around the crown etc. However the general proportions are falling into place from the initial design way back in the early 70's. I bought three in paper cups one year seedlings for 50c and planted them in my dad's back acreage still have two, as my itchy fingers killed the fattest trunk*nearly 6" dia) about forty years ago by stuffing it into a way to small of a pot! Lesson: patience please and damn it, don't chop too much of the tap at one time!!
 

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Thank you, Vance for sharing your history and experience with these trees. You are so lucky to still have trees that have survived from when you started in the hobby so long ago. I have been dabbing in doing bonsai off and on for about 20 years, killing many trees and trying to figure it out, mostly by reading books full of conflicting information. Then YouTube came along, full of more conflicting information; but with a few people who seemed to know what they were talking about. I finally joined a local club about six years ago and have learned so much from folks experienced with native species and our local climate. I am finally seeing success with my trees, and actually have one going on eight years as a bonsai, which is a record for me!
In the last two years, I have decided to start working with pines. I have gotten a lot of great advice from the old timers on this forum. Having recently turned 71, I don't expect to see in my lifetime any of my young pines develop into anything show quality or even worth looking at. But I am enjoying learning the techniques and know I am here for the journey but probably not the final destination of a completely developed tree.
 
NM, welcome! We’re all on the same path… it really is the journey.its not about the shows the awards… it is the quiet frosty mornings* and seeing nature through the eyes of a kid again…

* having moved from the snow county now about 9 yrs back I sort of miss a bit of the chill and seeing the frost evaporate into mist…

Yet my newer revelations are watching hearing the geese on our little lake take off at dawn…

I’ve put this little note on a lot of my pots:

“A gaggle of geese alight on the lake
At dawn
a cocphony in flight”
 
NM, welcome! We’re all on the same path… it really is the journey.its not about the shows the awards… it is the quiet frosty mornings* and seeing nature through the eyes of a kid again…

* having moved from the snow county now about 9 yrs back I sort of miss a bit of the chill and seeing the frost evaporate into mist…

Yet my newer revelations are watching hearing the geese on our little lake take off at dawn…

I’ve put this little note on a lot of my pots:

“A gaggle of geese alight on the lake
At dawn
a cocphony in flight”
So cool, Vance. And your pots are beautiful with those lines on the bottom. An almost haiku!
 
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