Jin liquid substitute ?

Jan JC

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Hi everyone!

I'm planning on doing a Jin on some of my bonsais, so I'll have to buy Jin liquid.
The problem is that I won't use so much, maybe I just need to apply a few brush strokes to my bonsai , and Jin liquid is sold in very large quantities. Furthermore, I've only found it online, so I'd have to pay for the huge amount of liquid I won't use + transport .........€€££$$
That's why I'm asking you if there is any other liquid than I can apply to my bonsai which works 'more or less' as Jin Liquid does ( hydrochloric acid? sulfuric acid? Lemon juice? )
I don't look for professional quality.
Thanks (and sorry if this question is stupid...)
 

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When you talk about $$$, how much are you fearing? Here in the states we can buy 500ml for $12.

Do a search for "sulfurated lime". Anything that is close to 100% (like sulfurated lime that is used for vet purposes) will work fine. Just make sure you use it at 20% strength (or less).
 

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Well, here about 500 ml of Jin liquid can be worth around 10 € , plus 10 € of transport is already 20 € (25 $ USD ~)
I know it's not that expensive, but I just want to turn a single branch into a jin (and $ 25 for a branch ... Otherwise, if I don't find anything similar I'll just end up buying Jin liquid 😐)
 

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Just buy it. You’ll have to re-paint the jins regularly anyway, and the bottle will last for years.
 

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I have a 250ml bottle and close to 150 sticks in pots. My bottle has been with me for 4 years now. It's not even half way empty. Maybe close to a quarter.

Strong acids will turn your wood black, and it'll eat away the wood.
 

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I see that it is much better to use the original Jin liquid than any other product ...
I will take another look at nearby bonsai stores or nurseries, hopefully i will find a small bottle which better suits me.
(Who knows, maybe I end being a Jin master😅😐)
Thanks to everyone!
 

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You can make it. Tons of tutorials online...
It reeks like hell... not like Surströmming but still your house will have a terrible smell while cooking it
 

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Or a vet somewhere.

Cheaper in the bonsai world though.
interesting. On amazon.de this does not come up. But indeed. From price, it is not worth the hassle of getting a gallon
 

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interesting. On amazon.de this does not come up. But indeed. From price, it is not worth the hassle of getting a gallon
I figure the bottle I have will last many years.
The reason I decided to use it is because all the other stuff is pre-diluted.....so you're paying for water.
 

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I figure the bottle I have will last many years.
I thought that too but some crystals have precipitated out of all my bottles after a few years. Not sure whether that makes it ineffective but the stuff is cheap so I have bought a new batch every 5 years or so.
It can also be used as a winter pest and fungal dip in winter, spray for fruit trees and roses (dilute to specs) so lime sulphur has many uses for gardeners and bonsai growers.
 
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