Saizan
Yamadori
Don't worry: you can still use your right hand to do the most importants things...
To use the concave cutter, I mean
PS: I hope this heals fast!
To use the concave cutter, I mean
PS: I hope this heals fast!
Of roots and chops....
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Tieball
Masterpiece
Can't locate this....but interested....anyone (perhaps Smoke) know where this article is located?
Tieball
Masterpiece
Can't locate this....but interested....anyone (perhaps Smoke) know where this article is located?
Starfox
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It was nice, pity I didn't get much of it.
Thanks, silly mistake to make really. I can't even remember the last time I had one, I didn't really have a say in the matter anyway.
Don't worry: you can still use your right hand to do the most importants things...
To use the concave cutter, I mean
PS: I hope this heals fast!
Thanks, definitely down to one hand for a while.
The sooner the better, I'm over it already.
I think it might be this one....
https://bonsaial.wordpress.com/2015/02/14/elm-gro-pot-to-sho-pot/
Starfox
Masterpiece
OK sorry about the sidetrack, back on it now.
Thanks for the reply, at first I was thinking along the same lines and was planning on doing just what you said above, the part in bold that is, but as you can see how tangled it is in there quite a bit would end up being removed. I think.
I was also worried a bit about where the trunk splits not looking natural enough, some of that needs to be removed and it would possibly create some large gaps so I figured it is a good as time as any to put a new vision for it and my own touches.
With all that said and seeing the pic of your tree I'm starting to think that I may of been a bit hasty in trying to change things and maybe a good clean out is a start.
Also yes about the pot, I do have a slightly bigger pot and it may even be shallower too but it may not be as large as you are suggesting. That is also why I wanted to change the orientation of the tree so the roots had more space. I didn't want to so much force the roots down just so it sits a little lower in the pot but that should come slightly when trying to let them grow out.
I'm not adverse to a broom look as such so I can run with it but another reason is as the tree dropped it's leaves this sweeping trunk has stood out more and more and I do like it too.
The pic below is somewhat along the lines of what I was thinking although I know it would take a few years for it to even resemble anything like that so maybe I am needlessly setting myself behind.(not thought of that until just now)
Also it would of been better if that is how the tree was started out anyway.
Well I can see that too, as said I like that second view as well.
I'm nearly convinced now on the broom look, I'll have to spend a little more time with the tree because I tossed that idea out a while ago so need to consider it again.
Thankfully or not so much, I can't do a great deal at the moment so I have a bit more time to dwell on it.
Buds are swelling more and more though.
Thanks for the reply, at first I was thinking along the same lines and was planning on doing just what you said above, the part in bold that is, but as you can see how tangled it is in there quite a bit would end up being removed. I think.
I was also worried a bit about where the trunk splits not looking natural enough, some of that needs to be removed and it would possibly create some large gaps so I figured it is a good as time as any to put a new vision for it and my own touches.
With all that said and seeing the pic of your tree I'm starting to think that I may of been a bit hasty in trying to change things and maybe a good clean out is a start.
Also yes about the pot, I do have a slightly bigger pot and it may even be shallower too but it may not be as large as you are suggesting. That is also why I wanted to change the orientation of the tree so the roots had more space. I didn't want to so much force the roots down just so it sits a little lower in the pot but that should come slightly when trying to let them grow out.
I'm not adverse to a broom look as such so I can run with it but another reason is as the tree dropped it's leaves this sweeping trunk has stood out more and more and I do like it too.
The pic below is somewhat along the lines of what I was thinking although I know it would take a few years for it to even resemble anything like that so maybe I am needlessly setting myself behind.(not thought of that until just now)
Also it would of been better if that is how the tree was started out anyway.
Well I can see that too, as said I like that second view as well.
I'm nearly convinced now on the broom look, I'll have to spend a little more time with the tree because I tossed that idea out a while ago so need to consider it again.
Thankfully or not so much, I can't do a great deal at the moment so I have a bit more time to dwell on it.
Buds are swelling more and more though.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Aha.....searched here.....
http://www.bonsainut.com/posts/179830/
http://www.bonsainut.com/posts/179830/
Apparently.....Dav4 should remember.
It's way way down.....the title is Howard Latimer 2010 Deceased.
https://bonsaial.wordpress.com/trident-maples/
Sorce
The problem is, your trunk looks nothing like your drawing! If that's what you want, choose a different trunk.OK sorry about the sidetrack, back on it now.
Thanks for the reply, at first I was thinking along the same lines and was planning on doing just what you said above, the part in bold that is, but as you can see how tangled it is in there quite a bit would end up being removed. I think.
I was also worried a bit about where the trunk splits not looking natural enough, some of that needs to be removed and it would possibly create some large gaps so I figured it is a good as time as any to put a new vision for it and my own touches.
With all that said and seeing the pic of your tree I'm starting to think that I may of been a bit hasty in trying to change things and maybe a good clean out is a start.
Also yes about the pot, I do have a slightly bigger pot and it may even be shallower too but it may not be as large as you are suggesting. That is also why I wanted to change the orientation of the tree so the roots had more space. I didn't want to so much force the roots down just so it sits a little lower in the pot but that should come slightly when trying to let them grow out.
I'm not adverse to a broom look as such so I can run with it but another reason is as the tree dropped it's leaves this sweeping trunk has stood out more and more and I do like it too.
The pic below is somewhat along the lines of what I was thinking although I know it would take a few years for it to even resemble anything like that so maybe I am needlessly setting myself behind.(not thought of that until just now)
Also it would of been better if that is how the tree was started out anyway.
Well I can see that too, as said I like that second view as well.
I'm nearly convinced now on the broom look, I'll have to spend a little more time with the tree because I tossed that idea out a while ago so need to consider it again.
Thankfully or not so much, I can't do a great deal at the moment so I have a bit more time to dwell on it.
Buds are swelling more and more though.
Check out these developmental pictures of Mr Ebihara's broom. You can see he cut it back very hard!
And it looks like he put it in a large grow box to let the nebari spread.
Starfox
Masterpiece
Well that is true mostly about the trunk, I just grabbed that pic from google images as it would be along that sort of theme but not as high or as many curves.
What my trunk would look like if I chopped the straight extension off the right side would be similar to this(not as nice) as one side of the trunk split has a nice curve and the other continues straight on...
Still I do totally get what you are saying, just trying to clarify my thought process. I'm not saying it's a great idea but really just need to talk it through I think which is great because I can take on board what you are saying and see that it makes much more sense than my idea and would leave me with an almost satisfyingly immediate improvement, and I think that is where I need to look instead of overthinking things.
What my trunk would look like if I chopped the straight extension off the right side would be similar to this(not as nice) as one side of the trunk split has a nice curve and the other continues straight on...
Still I do totally get what you are saying, just trying to clarify my thought process. I'm not saying it's a great idea but really just need to talk it through I think which is great because I can take on board what you are saying and see that it makes much more sense than my idea and would leave me with an almost satisfyingly immediate improvement, and I think that is where I need to look instead of overthinking things.
you know, whatever you do with it. just make sure yourself are confortable with it, thats the most important thing,
you can first start with cleaning upr branches which you dont need whichever direction you take it, maybe during this it will become more clear what you want yourself
you can first start with cleaning upr branches which you dont need whichever direction you take it, maybe during this it will become more clear what you want yourself
Starfox
Masterpiece
That really does seem like the best approach, having a look at it last night I had the same thought. There is an awful lot to clean out I think but just that will improve things so we shall see.
Also taken on board Adairs larger pot suggestion although somehow one 12 euro pot has become a 300 euro order of mainly Australian native garden plants and a sequoia forest. Not sure how that happened.
Hopefully Madame Starfox will approve and I can order it tonight.
Also taken on board Adairs larger pot suggestion although somehow one 12 euro pot has become a 300 euro order of mainly Australian native garden plants and a sequoia forest. Not sure how that happened.
Hopefully Madame Starfox will approve and I can order it tonight.
could you tell me once which book/magazine this actually comes from? i assume kinbon or bonsai sekai but which year/month? i tried to find it once but there are so many its difficult to find it.
thanx
Sorry, I don't know. It was Boon's magazine, I took a couple of pictures with my iPhone. It's rather old.
Ok, no prob, let me know if you happen to find out
Grtz
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Lol!
If you intend to ground layer it.....
Which...."buy a trunk and nebari"
Should happen first.....
Buy Madame Starfox something nice now, throw it in a colander/box, and you'll be good to go all around by the time you need a pot!
Wide! Wide! Wide!
Skip a pot till you know what the tree will look like!
Just don't......skip the pot!
G'dia....."Handyman!" lol!
Sorce
Starfox
Masterpiece
I don't think I will ground layer it, at least not yet. I have plenty to do so don't want to complicate things much more.
The madame got her orange and lemon trees despite my protestations that they aren't Australian natives, lol.
Anyway an update...
All I have done so far is start cleaning out the branches, there are probably a few more branches and stuff to go if I was to leave it like that. I think it looks better like this anyway and I guess I could just tidy it up or continue chopping.
The madame got her orange and lemon trees despite my protestations that they aren't Australian natives, lol.
Anyway an update...
All I have done so far is start cleaning out the branches, there are probably a few more branches and stuff to go if I was to leave it like that. I think it looks better like this anyway and I guess I could just tidy it up or continue chopping.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Nice!
You can see the structure!
It looks good!
Sorce
You can see the structure!
It looks good!
Sorce
ColinFraser
Masterpiece
Ouch; glad you're all stitched up!
It goes around more behind my thumb, strqight down to the bone.
I did one like that once while washing a drinking glass - It was soapy, so I was squeezing it pretty hard to avoid dropping it - too hard it turned out, and i crushed it right in my hand. The resulting pieces sliced the webbing between my thumb and index finger completely open. Take it easy - those flexible bits take time to heal.
Starfox
Masterpiece
Yeah it took a bit of work to find it but the bones have grown on me, at least I can see in there now.
Thanks, stitches came out today, a bit overdue though some of them took some pulling and one had a touch of puss so she squeezed the crap out of it and sent me on my way and that was it, not even any anti biotics so I trust their judgement it will be fine.
Still hurts like hell though and can't do any heavy work yet but getting better every day.
Your story made me wince a little, I can just picture it now, ergh. Definitely will take it easy for a bit longer, luckily spring seems to be holding off for a bit longer so I can put a few things to one side.
just.wing.it
Deadwood Head
Tree's looking good!
Starfox
Masterpiece
Well I gave it a repot today, first time I have done that on any tree and it went well enough but not without minor problems as well.
I'm fairly sure that right in under the roots and trunk it had been packed with something most likely to encourage the nebari but I'll be damned if I could get in there.
I was probably being over cautious but under the trunk is solid roots and something else, in the end I didn't force it and figured it best not to go overboard. I did take a saw to it to take nearly an inch off just after trimming so it would sit a little lower in the pot. This I will need to fix properly next repot I guess because it annoys me.
Also I stuffed up the positioning.
Still it is what it is and hopefully I haven't killed it.
I'm fairly sure that right in under the roots and trunk it had been packed with something most likely to encourage the nebari but I'll be damned if I could get in there.
I was probably being over cautious but under the trunk is solid roots and something else, in the end I didn't force it and figured it best not to go overboard. I did take a saw to it to take nearly an inch off just after trimming so it would sit a little lower in the pot. This I will need to fix properly next repot I guess because it annoys me.
Also I stuffed up the positioning.
Still it is what it is and hopefully I haven't killed it.
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