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@petegreg ...I asked the history of it. This was grown from a cutting in a raised grow bed for 6 years. Potted in 2015. By one who does sell bonsai and has a nursery. But there you have it. The history behind it...as you had guessed.
 
Had no idea there were so many varieties of ginkgo.

The link in case one wishes to open photos of cultivar. Wouldn't allow me to attach them for there were more than 20 it stated. So I deleted the photos. http://kwanten.home.xs4all.nl/thetree.htm
Ginkgo biloba:

'Anny's Dwarf': compact dwarf form, male, up to 2,5 m

'Autumn Gold': better fall colour and/or modified broad spreading growth habit, erect compact oval form, male.

'Barabits Nana/Dwarf': small bushy form, up to 2 metres.

'Beijing Gold': shrub form, 4 m, yellow leaves also in spring and summer ( in summer somewhat striped)
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'Bergen op Zoom': small straight up to 4 metres.

'Californian Sunset': mostly yellow at first, becoming striped yellow

'Chase Manhattan': small, tiny darkgreen leaves, compact, ideal for bonsai and rockgarden, c. 1.5 m
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'Chichi (Icho)': smaller leaves and a textured trunk, bark has breast-shaped protuberances
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'Chris's Dwarf' (or 'Munchkin'?): see 'Munchkin'

'Chotek': weeping form of 'Witches Broom'; cultivar from Czech Republic; found by Mr Horak, Bystrice pod Hostinemin. Named to tribute the house of Choteks, the family of archbishop F. M. Chotek.

'Compacta': semi-dwarf

'Doctor Causton': male and female cultivar

'Eastern Star': female, bears abundant crops of large nuts.

'Elmwood': vertical columnar form

'Epiphylla': female. Max. 4 m h., more wide. Seeds form on rather young plant.

'Elsie': upright growing, female.

'Fairmount': slender form, big leaves, dense pyramidal crown, male, 15 m.

'Fastigiata': architectural vertical accent, nearly columnar form, slightly wider at the base, big leaves, male (also available as female).
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'Geisha': female, long pendulous branches and dark green foliage which turns lemon-yellow in fall, heavy crops of large nuts.

'Globosa': Graft on stock, bulb-shaped, compact

'Globus': Bullet-form, big leaves.

'Golden globe': Full head and spectacular yellow fall color. Trees are unusually densely branched for Ginkgos. Young trees have full crowns that mature in a broad, rounded head. Male. (from a seedling of Cleveland Tree Co. )

'Gresham': Wide spreading horizontal branch habit. (from Gresham High School Ginkgos at Gresham, Oregon)

'Hayanari': female.

'Heksenbezem Leiden' (Witches broom): quite compact, rounded, dwarf form, branching closely grouped,
up to 3 metres.

'Horizontalis': tall and wide form, many side-branches.
Wide crown.
'Jade Butterfly': dense darkgreen foliage clumps, shrubby outline, vase shaped, semi dwarf, about 3 m.


'King of Dongting': slow growing, very big leaves.

'Laciniata': large deeply divided leaves
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'Lakeview': compact, conical to broadly pyramidal, male.

'Liberty Splendor': broad pyramidal form with strong trunk, female.

'Long March': Upright growing, female is cultivated for heavy crops of tasty nuts.

'Magyar': uniform symmetrical branching, upright narrow pyramid form, up to 19 metres, male.

'Mariken': more compact than 'W.B.', tall about 3 ft, w.6-10 ft, branches more or less pendulous, graft on about 5 ft stock (P. Vergeldt; from a tree in Nijmegen).
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'Mayfield': Narrower form than Fastigiata, tight upright, short branches, 9-12 m.

'Menhir': slender, upright columnar, straight (Van Vliet)

'Munchkin' (or 'Chris's Dwarf' ?): Upright habit and numerous slender branches, it has a tendency to be more regular in shape.
Most leaves do not exceed the size of a quarter and are very dense on the plant. May eventually reach 6 ft but growth rate is around 4'' a year.
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'Ohasuki': up to 4 metres, halfround big leaves, female.

'Pendula': branches more or less pendulous ("weeping"), slow growing, decorative.
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'Prague or Pragense': low spreading and parasol-shaped.

'Princeton Sentry': well known cultivar, slow growing, big decorative leaves, upright conical form gives very formal focal point, male, 30 m.
Improved "Fastigiata". Name derived from tree in Princeton Cemetary.

'Rainbow': striped with green/yellow leaves, about 3 m. Improved 'Variegata'. Remove green leaved branch immediately.

'Salem Lady': female from Oregon.

'Santa Cruz': female, low, spreading, umbrella-shaped.

'Saratoga': dense branches, small yellow-green leaves, slow growth, rounded outline, male, 10 m.

'Shangri-La': fast growing with compact pyramidal form, 14 metres, grows somewhat faster, male.

'Spring Grove': dwarf, very small and compact, about 3 m.

'Tit': = Chichi (Icho).

'Tremonia': small, pyramidal form, very big leaves, female, 10 m.

'Troll': compact 'W.B.', leaves vary from normal to rounded (Johann Wieting; from a tree in Krefeld, Germany.
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'Tubifolia': slender leaves form sort of tub shape, slow growing, decorative, small tree, fairly compact branching, about 3 m.

'Umbrella': compact, densely branched, different leaf-forms and sizes.

'Variegata':
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shrub form with variegated foliage, some leaves 'halved' green and gold, others striped and others half gold/half striped, up to 3 metres, female.

It often reverts to green (see 'Rainbow'). Half-shaded position.
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'Windover': broad oval outline, shade tree, 17 m.

'W.B.' ('Witches Broom'): dwarf form, compact, rounded, lightgreen leaf, closely grouped branches,
about 2.75 m.
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can also be grown as a bonsai




fallen leaves
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@petegreg ...I asked the history of it. This was grown from a cutting in a raised grow bed for 6 years. Potted in 2015. By one who does sell bonsai and has a nursery. But there you have it. The history behind it...as you had guessed.
Thank you I appreciate it. So with this and BVF's thread I could have similar tree in 3-4 years.:confused:
 
Thank you I appreciate it. So with this and BVF's thread I could have similar tree in 3-4 years.:confused:

Well this was in ground 6 years as a cutting...and potted in 2015. So that is roughly 8 years for this tree in training. BUT...I'm not familiar with where BVF's looked in 3-4 years. That said...surely you can see it going in the direction you wish to see by taking those steps as a direction of a sound plan. The guy I got this from stated...
Cuttings usually produce nice bases.

So food for thought as well.
 
Well this was in ground 6 years as a cutting...and potted in 2it's 5. So that is roughly 8 years for this tree in training. BUT...I'm not familiar with where BVF's looked in 3-4 years. That said...surely you can see it going in the direction you wish to see by taking those steps as a direction of a sound plan. The guy I got this from stated...


So food for thought as well.
Well, mine comes from a nursery. It spent some 3-4 years in a pot with nursery soil, then went to the ground, now it's been there for two full years. I'll see how it goes.
 
Well, mine comes from a nursery. It spent some 3-4 years in a pot with nursery soil, then went to the ground, now it's been there for two full years. I'll see how it goes.

You may already have a good base then? Surely you would know...But...chopping would surely help create one as you go. ;) You have a photo of this tree anywhere here? I'm off to go research ginkgo. If I don't find anything confirming something I read on pruning...Then, you can see a thread soon started by me.
 
FWIW, I was watching a video with Arthur Joura, the bonsai curator of the North Carolina Arboretum, and he mentioned that ginkio's are one of the slowest species to heal over wounds and will likely never heal over big wounds.

 
You may already have a good base then? Surely you would know...But...chopping would surely help create one as you go. ;) You have a photo of this tree anywhere here? I'm off to go research ginkgo. If I don't find anything confirming something I read on pruning...Then, you can see a thread soon started by me.
Nah, not so good, one inch or so. But after the first chopping it has at least three branches from the bottom... No pics here, I'm looking forward to watching your trip with ginkgo.
 
Nah, not so good, one inch or so. But after the first chopping it has at least three branches from the bottom... No pics here, I'm looking forward to watching your trip with ginkgo.
Gotcha...no wonder I've not come across it. Well...I'm in a learning curve. Trying to figure out Adair's advice on the flame style. How one goes about accomplishing it. I may just need to study photos of ones out of leaf...in this shape. To grasp what the bones look like.
 
Ginkgo are highly variable from seed, so everyone will likely have something different to say about how they grow or heal. I have had them go both ways. I had a few that didn't heal well at all. My larger one heals quarter-size cuts in just 2-3 years. The second photo in your OP shows some chops that are definitely healing.
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On the flame style: it's clip and grow and you will end up with roughly a broom style, with either a central leader like yours, or without a central leader like mine. You just need to have guts enough to chop it back hard in the winter to get good taper when it grows again in the spring:
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Gotcha...
Heh I see you 're browsing ginkgo pages on bNut. That's that one (that @sorce doesn't like) growing in a pot, experienced three weeks of temps down to -18℃ this winter spending it put at it's place on my balcony... The S shape will be more from rear to back. I'd like to play more with it, but potted it's so slow.
And I've found that one we were talking about on my camera care, taken as an entry picture to its ground growing few weeks ago.
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Pruning ginkgos for shape and ramification should be straightforward. Let it grow for strength and when it has 6-8 pairs of leaves, prune behind first or second pair. @Brian Van Fleet please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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@petegreg ... Ahhh I'm trying to remember which tree in the pot you mention. Did it have exposed roots?

This one in the ground, is not going to be a telephone pole ginkgo. Good direction! Thanks for the photo.
Yes, that one, I must do something with it.
That ground grown, trully, spent two years in my mother's flower bed and I didn't have a courage to let it grow and kill flowers, so yes it was pruned every year. This spring moved to better spot for freedom of growth. This way we can lose time...
BTW as for my prunning post, for sure ginkgo has alternate leaf arrangement, so pruning behind first or second leaf.
Thanks for encouraging.
 
Darlene, just google "ginkgo bonsai", then click the images button. You'll see them. And you can tell which are trained in the "Flame" style. And there are a few shown without leaves so you can see the structure.

You pretty much let branches grow straight up, then prune them back. Unlike what that guy in the video did when he guy wired that branch horizontal.
 
Darlene, just google "ginkgo bonsai", then click the images button. You'll see them. And you can tell which are trained in the "Flame" style. And there are a few shown without leaves so you can see the structure.

You pretty much let branches grow straight up, then prune them back. Unlike what that guy in the video did when he guy wired that branch horizontal.
Yeah...I was like... ? To the wired branches. Trying to locate dormant trees to get a grasp for it. The wired branch should have gave me a clue. But...I was more interested in hearing about their growth pattern. They all grow the same. But not the best video now that you pointed it out.
 
So reading they say most style into a flame or fan...where as assuming mine has been somewhat trained already to the flame...but need to continue in that aspect. Flame makes sense when you think of this trees growth pattern.

Assuming flame with the tip for an apex.
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Then the fan with the broader canopy top...
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So reading they say most style into a flame or fan...where as assuming mine has been somewhat trained already to the flame...but need to continue in that aspect. Flame makes sense when you think of this trees growth pattern.

Assuming flame with the tip for an apex.
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Then the fan with the broader canopy top...
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Both of those would be considered Flames. The first one is more of a clump style, the second a single trunk, then into a broom. You can also do single trunk flames with a central trunk, and just have lots of branches growing up off the trunk.
 
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