Wonderful Hornbeam! They will grow around here, but nobody sells them.
The big tree, little car struggle.
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Frozentreehugger
Masterpiece
I forgot to add take steps to protect the disconnected electrical connection car side after removing the seat . A small towel wrapped and secured with tape . Will keep dirt out and protect the plastic from getting smashed . Especially if something heavy moves while driving
AshleyMammal
Shohin
It has some obvious large flaws but I feel good that it was saved. I believe it to be some sort of Squamata so not ideal bonsai material, I had planned to graft Shimpaku but not sure I can wait the 30 years it would take to grow into a decent tree.
Frozentreehugger
Masterpiece
All collected trees have flaws it had some great trunk movement I think it will be great with some deadwood and refinement . Native foliage is not bad will be fine on a larger tree
Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
Nice treeGet a pickup truck. Problem solved...or just reduce the trunk the parking lot of the nursery. Lots of fun, and the nursery staff might be shocked "you voided your warranty" or, they may not be "we've seen that before, want some help?" (if that's the response, return to the nursery as often as possible--they "get" bonsai...Even if you have a pickup truck and you have big "finished" trees, you have to get creative to transport them. I have to drive a very large oak bonsai twice a year to/from a bonsai nursery 70 miles from me for winter storage. Driving 75 mph on the Interstate would break/severely damage a tree that is exposed to the wind...The top of the tree is 6-8 inches taller than the cab of the truck. A bed topper is not tall enough, so I had to build a large plywood box to protect it--box breaks down easily for flat storage. Adapt, overcome...
.Potawatomi13
Imperial Masterpiece
Notch/bend upper straight trunk
.AshleyMammal
Shohin
That upper straight trunk is an issue, and i'm not sure that a notch cut is the answer! i'm going to set up a separate thread to get people's ideas.Notch/bend upper straight trunk
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
How did you get on with tackling this cool Hornbeam? We would love to see.
WNC Bonsai
Masterpiece
To get my big hinoki to the club show last week I had to pull the front passenger seat out of my pickup. A couple members who drove up from SC rented a U-haul trailer to bring their trees. Where there is a will there is a way!
ironliver316
Seedling
It died, along with 2 other hornbeams that I went back and grabbed that were almost as good. Disease took them out this year, along with a nice beech.
Sorry to here that. What kind of disease if you knowIt died, along with 2 other hornbeams that I went back and grabbed that were almost as good. Disease took them out this year, along with a nice beech.
ironliver316
Seedling
No idea. The buds on the pictured hornbeam swelled and looked like they were about to open, then never did. The other 2 opened about half the buds, but the leaves stayed small and eventually died off. The beech leafed out as normal, but everything wilted and the branches went dark. Idk if it was the same disease as the hornbeams.
So when you dumped them was the root system wet, and black, and the smaller roots pulled apart easily?
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
Thats a shame, with nursery trees, I always check for vine weevil, its almost always present in the soil. The lavae munch on tree roots here in the UK, not certain if you guys have it across the pond. I usually treat with nematodes or a soil drench or repot right away. Sounds like a root issue.
ironliver316
Seedling
Honestly, I haven't checked that out yet. I cut all the branches off to put out with the yard waste, for the township to pick up. But the trunks are still in the nursery cans, back by my shed. I haven't got around to pulling them out. I'm sure they're dead dead, but I usually wait a little while because I've had more that one tree magically push leaves months after they looked like goners.
ironliver316
Seedling
I buy most of my nursery stock during the fall sales, so I try to repot them the following spring. But you guys know how easy it is to miss the window. But they all were slip potted into bigger pots for the time being, and they were doing so well up to last fall that I kept putting the repot off.
shohin_branches
Omono
My hornbeam did that but it had been repotted by some friends last year and failed to thrive afterwards.
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
Me too, or lets when they're leafless. In regards to Hornbeam ill repot them usually right away, often hacking the root mass at the nursery to make it more managable for the drive home. I can usually see if there are any grubs in the soil then. I wouldnt have slipped that Hornbeam into a bigger pot, that pot is a big enough training pot. Could it have stayed too wet over the winter months, maybe.
Oh so you guys do have it:
Yes, vine weevils are present in the USA. Specifically, the black vine weevil (Otiorhynchus sulcatus) is native to Europe but is now established and considered a pest in North America. They are found in various nurseries, greenhouses, and gardens across the country.
The black vine weevil is a significant pest in many areas, including the Pacific Northwest, where it is a major contaminant of machine-harvested raspberries. It is known to attack a wide range of plants, including popular shrubs like rhododendrons and hydrangeas.
The vine weevil was first noted in the United States in Massachusetts in 1835, and its spread continued westward and southward from there. It is now found throughout the northern portions of the United States and extends into areas like Virginia.
Strange then, because ive never seen a single person mention the grub on here. The larvae will lay dormant in the winter months, hidden deep in the root ball. As it warms up through spring/summer they begin munching on plant roots. Only a real problem if the tree is left in nursery soil. But ive seen them hiding under moss in Akadama too. Which is why you'll often hear me say to check under the moss for grubs.
leatherback
The Treedeemer
Following this conversation along I would not be worried about disease. Sounds like horticultural issues and pushing trees too hard or at the wrong time.
If i look at the original hornbeam: That tree was in perfect health when you got it. If all other trees were similar, and I have no reason to assume they were sickly weak trees when you started, it is most likely your care that cause the problem.
I read about you repotting in fall. Why would you repot these? They are in suitable containers and you probably want to reduce the size. So leave them in their pots, reduce in mid-spring. Allow the tree to push and repot spring a year later.
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