The future of our planet

M. Frary said:
It's all part of his bigotry towards Muslims. He's trying to ignite an all out war on Islam.
The things he's doing are straight out of the Antichrists playbook.
This guy isn't only bad for America but the whole world.
Hopefully someday we get to see him and some of his cronies in chains.
He opened up a National Monument for drilling,mining and cracking for his spacial interest groups.
Maybe he will reduce the area for the preservation of giant redwoods. The biggest tree I've gotten to cut down was an oak just over 6 feet in diameter. Imagine the noise one of those redwoofs makes when it hits the ground.
Maybe they will be able to put oil rigs on the floor of the Grand Canyon. Maybe a little strip mining in Yellowstone.
What a great President.
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He is better in every way than a chicken little like you.

He is trying to ignite an all out war on islam???
Those creeps have been at war with us for 1400 years where have you been lately?

A national monument that has existed only since Odummer created it a few years ago.

Why didn't you refuse to cut down that Oak tree. A six foot diameter Oak is definitely old growth. I guess that must be because you are a hypocrite.

In regards to the redwoods you do realize that the 1906 San Francisco earthquake knocked down most of them, but now 111 years later you will see hundreds of 1000's if not millions of them growing right where the were cracked off at ground level like match sticks.

Your perceived knowledge is on display once again as non-existant.
Please get some real facts before you attempt to show your 'knulledge' for all to see.

You're welcome.

A_E

P.S. Regarding you statement about your Elm tree with the spaghetti branches having "movement" I agree but I would call it "bowel movement"

I love you Frary you are so easy to refute and make you look like the fool you are.
Thanks for playing!
 
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AlameK: PS: Hey wat I ment buy "US culture" is of coarse, wot Rusty Davis an' others egzamplifry in that thread."

Lay off the booze this is incomprehensible.

6 non or incorrect spelling words out of 19.

"We don't "kill" people here any longer you know. We've abolished the death penalty for decades, we're civilized people."

You obviously don't value the lives of your fellow non-murdering citizens. Nothing civilized about that.

You are welcome!
A_E
 
americanelmer said:
You obviously don't value the lives of your fellow non-murdering citizens. Nothing civilized about that.
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I admit this is another debate, but check the statistics of murders in countries that have the death penalty, and those who don't.

I think that the glitch in our conversation is what we each mean by "values".
 
Good to see this thread has turned into a New Donald Trump thread...
Good to see the same old Liberal Left Wing Kooks thrashing around trying to explain their position but only showing their ignorance of all things logical.......So typical
Carry on men...
 
I was one of those scientists that signed the paper.

As I already written here somewhere: we, the scientific community, have long passed the time when we were discussing whether climate change is real or not. We are now concerned in understanding the consequences and mitigating the impacts. Not an easy task, and the end result may not be what one would wish...

Could you have imagined 100 years ago that man would once walk on the moon?
 
"Could you have imagined 100 years ago that man would once walk on the moon?"

Yes. a fellow named H.G.Wells wrote a whole book about it 117 years ago.

A_E
 
Yes, "The First Men in the Moon" was published in 1901.

And Georges Méliès, the one who invented "special effects", made a short film in 1902:

 
Does the earth not go through phases ? I’m sure humans are not helping with everything but really ?
 
jriddell88 said:
Does the earth not go through phases ?
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Yes it does. The difference is that if the normal range of weather patterns (the climate) changes over (tens of ) thousands of years, animal and plant species have time to respond, move around and even adapt. If it changes over decades things cannot keep up and things start to fall out of place. THat is when things get a little sad: http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock/env5/

Add to that the huge pressure we have already placed on living space and population space of most plants and animals and the thing becomes problematic. Of course, It is only a problem if you care what comes after we die and whether you think it is important that earth as we have known it, will remain. Life will not disappear but earth might become a pretty unpleasant place.

The main question I think is: Do we want to stop the trend that has been set. And do we believe we can stop the trend. I guess most of the world is willing to try. Most of the countries in the world has committed to take action (http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9444.php) with notable exception of a few oil states, dicatorships and very poor countries. All western countries have signed on, indicating that we have all fallen for fake news and money-obsessed junk-science.
 
Maybe the means to the end is the problem. Carbon Tax? Just another excuse for wealth redistribution. And those scientist you cited? Try climategate for that answer.

We're out growing this world, very fast and there's nothing, short of a world catastrophe that will fix it.
 
leatherback said:
Yes it does. The difference is that if the normal range of weather patterns (the climate) changes over (tens of ) thousands of years, animal and plant species have time to respond, move around and even adapt. If it changes over decades things cannot keep up and things start to fall out of place. THat is when things get a little sad: http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock/env5/

Add to that the huge pressure we have already placed on living space and population space of most plants and animals and the thing becomes problematic. Of course, It is only a problem if you care what comes after we die and whether you think it is important that earth as we have known it, will remain. Life will not disappear but earth might become a pretty unpleasant place.

The main question I think is: Do we want to stop the trend that has been set. And do we believe we can stop the trend. I guess most of the world is willing to try. Most of the countries in the world has committed to take action (http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9444.php) with notable exception of a few oil states, dicatorships and very poor countries. All western countries have signed on, indicating that we have all fallen for fake news and money-obsessed junk-science.
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Im with you but I’m sort of a realist , there is just too many people in the world that don’t care , what’s the population now ?

I honestly think if you believe that we as a world will change the trend and path we’re on , your living in a fantasy .

I wish we could change it , truely . I try and do my part as much as I can , it’s kind of like not voting , is my one vote seriously going to change the outlook of the election , probably not
 
NorthTXacer said:
Maybe the means to the end is the problem. Carbon Tax? Just another excuse for wealth redistribution. And those scientist you cited? Try climategate for that answer.

We're out growing this world, very fast and there's nothing, short of a world catastrophe that will fix it.
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Those scientist probably own 20 cars, 5 20,000 sq ft houses all over the world and throw their cheeseburger rappers out the window while driving down the road.
 
jriddell88 said:
I honestly think if you believe that we as a world will change the trend and path we’re on , your living in a fantasy
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I suppose this depends very much on the part of the world you live in and the media filter that determinee the focus you have.

Living in fairy tale Europe most of the time, i think we can change. Europe is well on its way to become renewables drives. China is taking massive steps in that direction. The countries in South America we work with are pushing into renewables. And even India is starting to push for change.

NorthTXacer said:
And those scientist you cited? Try climategate for that answer.
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I do not understand the point you try to make. Dont start off with these sites that only say climate models have been wrong all the time, without showing any proof that they have. Come with real models or proof and not just shouting empties.
 
leatherback said:
Living in fairy tale Europe most of the time, i think we can change. Europe is well on its way to become renewables drives. China is taking massive steps in that direction. The countries in South America we work with are pushing into renewables. And even India is starting to push for change.
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Is this really enough ? Can you reverse the damage ? Can you prove it please ?
 
Leatherback, climate gate was proof they were cooking the books. A lot of prominent scientist lost their jobs and their tenureship. I'm not suggesting we're not heating up this planet, I am suggesting that the models might be far more aggressive than reality (see climate gate).
 
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