The future of our planet

I’ll let it end there, I see now
I’ll take my chances , United States is beautiful I’m sure you’d like it , and I’m positive you would be greeted with nothing but kind generous people wherever you ventured here , as much as would like not to believe it , Europeans are responsible for the genecide of so many cultures , hell even the one that happened here to the poor natives , shame most of my ancestors are from Accross the Atlantic lol ?

Your too funny , your probably lickin your lips eyes glued to the screen awaitin ?
 
AlainK said:
I wouldn't like to cross the path of anyone carrying a gun, who would?
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I guess that is exactly the point being made. Nobody would. But some live in a country where gun-control is not an option, and as a result there is a huge amount of private gun ownership. Some because it is their right. Some because they feel they need to.
 
jriddell88 said:
United States is beautiful I’m sure you’d like it , and I’m positive you would be greeted with nothing but kind generous people wherever you ventured here
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I do believe you.

As I said, wherever I went, I've always found nice people, and I'm sure that you are one.

I mean, you are what you bring with you : some of the people I know had a bad experience in places I went to, and I've always thought that was because they dispised the people there in a way, because they couldn't understand what their culture was. They tried to see the locals through their own lenses.

But I'd feel most uncomfortable in a place where people need to carry guns to feel safe. Brrr...
 
It’s kind of like the saying “Full me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me” I learned the first time , and if I can legally carry with a legal license , i will

You just never know
 
AlainK said:
Great friends, great food, great music, no guns
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Alain, if you are so in tune with different cultures, try to understand. Perception of gun ownership in the USA is different. So even though for you the idea is absurd, there the idea of not having the right to owning guns is for many absurd. Not worth discussing as the basic premise of rights/needs is fundamentally different. Nobody will be convinced, certainly not on a forum on bonsai.
 
Couldn't resist looking through this thread, it's more hilarious than the Trump one was. I ended up going back through it again afterwards because when reading it all in one sitting I came away with one strong theme running through it.

American Elmer at the time of writing this has 176 forum posts.
74 of them in this thread
46 of the 74 contain some degree of name calling, intentional aggravation or just plain negativity to the person he's talking to with nothing to contribute towards the discussion.
I know there's shit flying from both sides here but as a stat that's mighty petty.

Just to summarise, A_E currently has over 25% of his current total forum posts consisting of being intentionally inflammatory based on just this thread alone. Interest in bonsai or part time internet troll?
 
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leatherback said:
Alain, if you are so in tune with different cultures, try to understand. Perception of gun ownership in the USA is different. So even though for you the idea is absurd, there the idea of not having the right to owning guns is for many absurd. Not worth discussing as the basic premise of rights/needs is fundamentally different.

Nobody will be convinced, certainly not on a forum on bonsai.
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Well do you know why the revolutionary war was started ? The British were coming to take the guns the people used to hunt and protect themselves from the “savages” and predators. , I guess it’s just been bred into us
 
leatherback said:
Perception of gun ownership in the USA is different.
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leatherback said:
Not worth discussing
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Quite right.

But the initial topic was "The future of our planet".

It was about alarming data about climate change, and I just hoped some might think about it, not about how their "button", or whatever is bigger, but trying to think about what's going on and how we can try and make people aware of what is at stake.

When you appeal to people's reason and they post about guns, yes, maybe you're right, not worth discussing.

But I'll never give in to what I know is bullshit, fake "science" from the alt-right and the christian bigots - the jewish and muslim fundamentalist cuckoos too!, all weirdos the same.
 
jriddell88 said:
Well do you know why the revolutionary war was started ? The British were coming to take the guns the people used to hunt and protect themselves from the “savages” and predators. , I guess it’s just been bred into us
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We're not in the 18th century any longer.

Fortunately, mankind has evolved since then in some places.

Not everywhere yet, but I believe that mankind is like a raw stone that can be shaped in harmony for those who are willing to be enlightened by Reason, in the 21st century, instead of getting hooked to medieval behaviours.


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I’m just saying , I know what century it is

I wish it was the 18th sometimes

And oh I’m enlightened , just not too thrilled

I suppose I was born in the wrong time , but everything happens for a reason , I’m enjoying the ride

We’re all human , can’t agree on everything , would be a boring world otherwise

I think you have beautiful trees and I enjoy looking at them , pictures say a thousand words and you do an outstanding job !

With that said the future of our planet ? is in the citizens hands , were all in it together (for now) until we go to mars , or deep space lol!!!!
 
the future of our planet is being determined thru the natural scientific order of geological/biological events...no one living today will ever know the outcome...

alain I'm pretty sure that women on the far right of your first picture is carrying, probably a 9mm...
 
Bolero said:
the future of our planet is being determined thru the natural scientific order of geological/biological events...no one living today will ever know the outcome...

alain I'm pretty sure that women on the far right of your first picture is carrying, probably a 9mm...
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The whole premise that there are natural cycles of cooling and warming is based on the same data that shows our current warming trend and co2 level is out of line with historical events. If you're going to state there are natural cycles you cannot then dismiss the same data set when it shows a trend that is totally unprecedented.
 
Cattwooduk said:
The whole premise that there are natural cycles of cooling and warming is based on the same data that shows our current warming trend and co2 level is out of line with historical events. If you're going to state there are natural cycles you cannot then dismiss the same data set when it shows a trend that is totally unprecedented.
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Yes, Mankind contributes to the Environment's measured increase in Earth's Temperatures Globally...however it is Insignificant compared to the Effect's of the Sun and its volatile activity to Earth and our Solar System in general...
Global Warming is not a threat to Earth, however HCU and North Korea is....
 
Bolero said:
Yes, Mankind contributes to the Environment's measured increase in Earth's Temperatures Globally...however it is Insignificant compared to the Effect's of the Sun and its volatile activity to Earth and our Solar System in general...
Global Warming is not a threat to Earth, however HCU and North Korea is....
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It's not a threat to earth no, that isn't really the debate.

As far as solar interactivity with earth is concerned, it's not especially well understood. At the moment I think most research seems to suggest that the solar cycle whereby sunspots heat and cool the climate, the biggest effects are felt regionally rather than globally.
This effectively means the upward trends in temperature recorded can't be caused solely by solar variability.

Also the irony is that it's bloody difficult if not impossible to effectively prove that solar activity is the leading cause of warming and cooling unless you isolate the other variable - CO2 in this case. Whereas the 11 year solar cycle is pretty consistent.

Regarding the sun's energy output, it's actually very stable and when measured at our upper atmosphere the difference between minimum and maximum is only 0.1%.

Also measurements of sunspots which are the factor some would point to as the main driver of warming have actually decreased over the last 60 or so years. So why have global temperatures continued to rise against the cooling effect of decreased solar activity?
 
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