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I have bought this little tree a year ago and left it ouside. I started to work on it now, but need some help. First I'm not entirely sure what kind of tree it is.
Second I've attached a few pics and would lke to know what you old ake of it!
 

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I think it lends itself to a cascade style, but am not sure.
 

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GVE, It appears to be a yew, what variety I can't say. With the large needles I would venture a guess and say Japanese (taxus cuspidata). Can we get one more picture with a neutral background. Would be much easier to help you with a style suggestion. There is a lot of distraction in your pic.
 
Sorry I forgot to put my name at the bottom!

Gerhard
 
Hope this is better Tom.
 

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Here are 2 more Tom.

Gerhard
 

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The needles are actually very tiny as you can see on one photo. On the last 2 pics the cascade is on the right. On photo 3 and 4 it is on the left. There is this branch that is in the middle front on pic 3 & 4. I don't know what to do about. Also the branch going upward in pic 5. The branch in my hand, pic 6, must it go? You can see it lying flat in pic 5.

Thanks
Gerhard
 
Well I'm wrong. Its not a yew picture #1 of the second set shows that to me. Now I'm thinking Larch
 
Juniper, exact species evades me at this moment but I have them planted in the landscape. I am thinking Juniper conferta...

Here is a link.
 
definitely not a yew or larch. I agree with juniper, possibly common juniper, but the needles are a little smaller.

You've got a bunch or branches going every which way - are you wanting to keep it as a clump, or were you wanting to make it look more like a tree?

- bob
 
It looks like either Junipers Communis, common Juniper, or Juniperus Conferta, Shore Juniper.
 
Thanks for all the input. Bob I want to get rid of some of the branches, but is still too inexperienced to know which ones should go and which should stay. Please help!!
Thanks
Gerhard
 
Hi Gerhard,

A very trying piece of stock you have there and perhaps not the best for your first attempt, however, looking at your first photo, it appears that there are either two plants in the one pot or it is a twin trunk. While I can't see all of the branches, looking at your finger size to trunk caliper, I believe that with some 5mm wire you may well be able to attempt a twin trunk design.

Jon
 
Jon, it is indeed a twin trunk. Do you really think with the amount of bend in the trunks, it is possible to get them upright in a twin trunk style? I thought it would be "easier" to try a semi cascade, although I do not yet know what to do with the branch that I put upright for the moment. The branches seem to be a bit brittle. If this is the way to go, I think it would take a couple of years before those trunks are anywhere near usable!

Gerhard
 
It looks like either Junipers Communis, common Juniper, or Juniperus Conferta, Shore Juniper.

GVE, could you tell us where you bought it? Is it a tree that occurs locally in Switzerland, or is it something you bought from a bonsai nursery? I was even going to suggest a Needle Juniper (Juniperus rigida) especially if you got it from a japanese nursery.
 
Bnut, I bought it from a nursery that sells bonsai as well as other plants. On the label it only said "assorted conifer". I have often seen them at nurseries, but do not know if it is indigenous.

Gerhard
 
Gerhard

Do you really think with the amount of bend in the trunks, it is possible to get them upright in a twin trunk style? I thought it would be "easier" to try a semi cascade,

I have done it in the past, although I would not necessarily attempt to do it in one go. I'm sure that the cascade would perhaps be the easier style to produce. Which ever way you go, I think that you will learn that it is better to choose better stock than what you have and this in itself will be your best lesson.

Jon
 
Gerhard



I have done it in the past, although I would not necessarily attempt to do it in one go. I'm sure that the cascade would perhaps be the easier style to produce. Which ever way you go, I think that you will learn that it is better to choose better stock than what you have and this in itself will be your best lesson.

Jon

That is the best and most honest advise you could possibly get. Sure there are some things you could do with this tree but the real issue is in your choice of material, in that you need to train yourself to find better material or resign yourself to second rate results and years of frustration.

I know it is the way things work; one asks for styling advise and cultivational advise but in the end, the lesson of looking for good stock is neither taught nor learned. Because of that, the same mistakes are made over and over again until some point, when years of work does not seem to be paying off, the realization that maybe using better material to begin with might hasten the process and improve the results.
 
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Great advice, lesson learned, next question...
What are the basic principles in chosing stock?

Gerhard

PS: Sorry I have to be so tenacious, but I cannot let the opportunity pass without learning this too!!
 
And by the way... Thanks, you are great teachers.
 
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