yamadori aftercare thought

[bonsaiDerek]

i believe that misting and watering newly collected trees, should be done with either well or spring, or some other natural water, that does not have chlorine/fluoride in it. My reasoning is that the tree and its mycorrhiza have never experienced these chemicals and they will either kill off the mycorrhiza or stunt new root development. I do this for the first month or so, then switch to city water.... so far i believe this helps.
any thoughts or other yamadori aftercare tips?

 

[bonsaichile]

I dont think the amount of chlorine or fluoride in tap water would be concentrated enough to make a difference

 

[BrianBay9]

If you believe it, then do it. Unlikely any of us would take the time and effort to actually do the experiment to find out if you're right or not.

 

[rockm]

Sounds expensive...and mostly unnecessary, but won't hurt.

 

[bonsaiDerek]

If you believe it, then do it. Unlikely any of us would take the time and effort to actually do the experiment to find out if you're right or not.

Brian.... you've collected plenty of ponderosa out west, what's your aftercare like?

 

[BrianBay9]

For Ponderosa I boxed or potted up, buried in a bank of pea gravel on the north side of my house, misted often and waited for a year or more. We had hot, dry summers so the gravel kept things moist but still well draining. I did not worry about chlorine in the municipal water. I had about 80% success rate.

 

[Ja_De 2.0]

Late to the party here.,.

If chlorine and fluoride were concerns one could draw pails of water and let them sit for a day or more to allow the chemicals to dissipate. Then water the trees. Aquarium enthusiasts do this for water changes.

The water one uses for cooking and bathing should be okay for trees though.
Although fluoride is not good at all...

 

[pandacular]

I don’t think you’re incorrect that city water isn’t ideal for collected plants, but pH almost certainly prevails in factors that would impact plant health. My pH from the tap is usually 8.5, so my next garden upgrade will likely be a way to fix that.

 

[shohin_branches]

Where I live well water and spring water is alkaline and hard due to limestone bedrock. Rain water is where it's at and setting up a rain barrel is incredibly easy. Most municipal water is alkaline to prevent pipe corrosion and not ideal for plants. Rain water is slightly acidic and can collect air pollution but is still a great way, overall, to water trees.

 

[bonsaichile]

Late to the party here.,.

If chlorine and fluoride were concerns one could draw pails of water and let them sit for a day or more to allow the chemicals to dissipate. Then water the trees. Aquarium enthusiasts do this for water changes.

The water one uses for cooking and bathing should be okay for trees though.
Although fluoride is not good at all...

BS. Floride water has brought down dramatically tooth decay and gum disease in the general population. Dont believe the lies of RFK Jr. the guy's brain has been literally eaten by worms and people listen to him

 

[19Mateo83]

BS. Floride water has brought down dramatically tooth decay and gum disease in the general population. Dont believe the lies of RFK Jr. the guy's brain has been literally eaten by worms and people listen to him

We’re talking about trees, not people. Please refrain from trying to turn this thread into a political argument. @Ja_De 2.0 is correct, you can leave a bucket of water out overnight to allow the chlorine to dissipate if you want chlorine free water for your trees.

 

[bonsaichile]

We’re talking about trees, not people. Please keep your political opinions to yourself.

It is not a political opiniom. It is a rational opinion. And also, 1st ammendment, right?

 

[yashu]

We’re talking about trees, not people. Please refrain from trying to turn this thread into a political argument.

To be fair @bonsaichile was addressing the last paragraph in the quoted post which was completely about people.

 

[yashu]

…that said, keeping politics out of the general forums is just good practice. There is a place for it so that the tree forums don’t get jammed up with bs and vitriol.

 

[Gabler]

Fluoride is good for people (in moderation), but fluoridated water is bad for plants. The effects are minimal, but it is technically toxic to plants.

Fluoride toxicity in plants irrigated with city water

Sensitive plants irrigated with city water can develop fluoride toxicity that results in tip burn.

www.canr.msu.edu

 

[shohin_branches]

It is not a political opiniom. It is a rational opinion. And also, 1st ammendment, right?

The first amendment keeps you from getting arrested for speaking out against the government. It doesn't protect you from getting called a dumbass

 

[shohin_branches]

If you own your home get few rain barrels. No use paying for mediocre water when good water falls from the sky for free.

 

[pandacular]

If you own your home get few rain barrels. No use paying for mediocre water when good water falls from the sky for free.

In Seattle, the city will reimburse you for a certain amount of installation costs. I’m renting, but might still install some for my landlord since it should be close to free.

 

[shohin_branches]

In Seattle, the city will reimburse you for a certain amount of installation costs. I’m renting, but might still install some for my landlord since it should be close to free.

The water department in my city used to give them away for free as a way to slow down storm water runoff and keep rainwater out of the sewer system. With houses close together in an urban environment many of our homes have downspouts that empty into the sewer.

Definitely check if your municipality has an incentive program for rain barrels.

 

[BrianBay9]

The water department in my city used to give them away for free as a way to slow down storm water runoff and keep rainwater out of the sewer system. With houses close together in an urban environment many of our homes have downspouts that empty into the sewer.

Definitely check if your municipality has an incentive program for rain barrels.

When I lived in Ft. Collins, CO we were prohibited from installing rain barrels. Apparently in CO you don't "own" the water that falls on your own roof.