Old landscape juniper, grafted.

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OH you're referring to my first virts. I feel it has better balance and flow than the original too. Counter balance doesn't have to be on the same plane. In this case, I feel I need the lower right side to be heavier to counter the weight on the top left. The heavy lower foliage also blocks the flow of my vision. Again, that is just how I see it and I MAY BE WRONG. :)
 
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OH you're referring to my first virts. I feel it has better balance and flow than the original too. Counter balance doesn't have to be on the same plane. In this case, I feel I need the lower right side to be heavier to counter the weight on the top left. The heavy lower foliage also blocks the flow of my vision. Again, that is just how I see it and I MAY BE WRONG. :)

nope just pointing out imbalance.... ;)
 

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movement is not simply wiggle, its the line and where it takes the eye.

I don't want to hurt any feelings, but I'm with Don on this one. You need to ignore the foliage and look at the trunk line ONLY. The current front is really the "correct" one. The front you (Poink88) are suggesting starts in one direction, switches back and has a really awkward straight middle section, and then returns to the original direction. It really doesn't work (at least for me).

You can move foliage all over the place to get it to work better - but you can't move the trunk line :)
 

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I don't want to hurt any feelings, but I'm with Don on this one. You need to ignore the foliage and look at the trunk line ONLY. The current front is really the "correct" one. The front you (Poink88) are suggesting starts in one direction, switches back and has a really awkward straight middle section, and then returns to the original direction. It really doesn't work (at least for me).

Nothing hurt. :)

That is what makes this hobby so nice...we all have different preferences. With time and better eye, I might see it your way. For now, I can only like what I see & appreciate. :)
 
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Nothing hurt. :)

That is what makes this hobby so nice...we all have different preferences. With time and better eye, I might see it your way. For now, I can only like what I see & appreciate. :)

I like that you are challenging the tree and thinking outside the box. Its also a good thing to know what you like and why you like it, as opposed to what other people tell you that you should like.

imo, if you had this tree in front of you and could study the angles and see the dimension and depth you might change your mind.
 

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I like the angle in the first picture here.. maybe I am not seeing something from the 2 D image that you can see in person, but I think the trunk has better movement from this angle and the foliage mixes in better and looks more naturally intertwined with the trunk and branches from the side angle!

Regardless, that is a really great tree and it shows the true value of grafting to create great results from a juniper with questionable foliage traits. You did a fantastic job with this one!


eric group's assessment is right on the money. from this angle, I see two trees, both with attractive potential.

best wishes, sam
 

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Not much change with this tree in the last couple years. As I've expected, growth is slow due to the cool summers here in San Francisco. I don't plan to show this this year so it's sitting on a pedestal growing.

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