Cattwooduk
Shohin
You're right I got no idea how old you are or what you've grown up with, it was a response to you labelling generation of 20-somethings as lazy because they don't get free college and feel entitled. I wrote my response in a way that assumed your age simply to respond by putting 'you' instead of 'generation of the past' every time. Just replace 'you' with baby boomer then if it upsets you but the truth is the truth.
I don't hate baby boomers or the eras they've lived through, both my parents who divorced when I was 2 worked insanely fucking hard to get what they did. My dad has worked in aerospace for only 2 different employers for his whole damn career, I'm saying that kind of thing was the norm for family guys, now it's a tiny minority for most people.
Quit whining and man the fuck up - I'm not whining, I'm literally relaying you fiscal facts and figures which are widely available and widely accepted to be true, you can't just wipe that off as being an excuse because you don't like it.
I've worked my fucking ass off as well and after the 9 years in a crumbling British steel industry, I've managed to set up my own business which I can no longer take on more work for because I'm too busy so don't tell me to man the fuck up and get on with it. Just because I've done that doesn't mean I see the issues 'us youngsters' face as a generation. My mate literally had to choose between getting married and buying a house, then older folk wonder why the amount of younger people getting married is dropping like a rock.
You can say it's excuses, it's legitimate reasons man. The amount of net worth, value of money, financial security and who earns how much money etc is probably one of the most documented data sets in a first world country, you can't just say it's an excuse when analysis of the facts show that younger generations actually have it much harder than previous ones, bullshit is it an excuse it's the truth regardless of whether you think people are whiners. For some people 'just get on with it' is pushing them into poverty whether they work 10 hours a week or 60.
I don't say this to suggest anyone OWES anyone else anything, I don't feel like I'm owed shit. As I said all most people want is the same opportunity as everyone else had, and not have to be burdened with a government bill someone else generated and then have someone call them fucking LAZY because they don't have as much money as an older guy.
Yeah I agree about the 80s sucking but like I said, after the busts of the day the boom was far FAR quicker to return and saw economic growth and wages rise fast, it's been basically a decade since the last financial meltdown and wages are barely rising to meet living costs for most. I'm not bitching about not having a good life, I couldn't be happier with what I've got - my own house, nice van for work, a dog and a stable relationship with a baby on the way. However, there is virtually no way I would have been able to be in my financial position without the help I've had from my parents. That is the same for every person my age that I know who owns their home, they had help. The exception of ONE guy I know who has held the same job since he was 16... he lived with his parents until he was 28 saving everything he could to be able to afford a house.
You even said yourself it's fucked! The $60k+ debt that people are instantly born with is insane... that has never existed before and yet you think people who are pissed at having debt for TRYING to achieve something are whiners?
You can't deny that as being really telling of the times compared to a generation where most people had zero education debt and their own home by their early to mid 20s, you just can't. It's not through laziness or hate for older generations, or not trying.
You can mock cry all you want but you can't argue with genuine facts and figures, regardless of how much or little someones perspective comes into it. I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone, I'm literally giving you data to explain WHY younger generations are in pissed at being in a worse financial position than the older folk who call them lazy when they have much less for working more.
