Black Pine Seedling Cuttings

[markyscott]

Here’s one of the payoffs for doing seedling cuttings



Three healthy buds within 1” of soil level

S

 

[Anthony]

Yup

 

[Haoleboy]

3 year old seedlings. Starting to push growth for their fourth growing season. The largest has about a 1” trunk and is 17” tall. Needles are starting to extend already - they’re really early. I might get a second push this year.

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Scott

Looking good. I have about 15 I started last year. They're just now pushing new growth. It was my first attempt. They really didn't do much last year. I guess they were just growing roots. I repotted them a couple weeks ago and they've responded well. Can't wait to see them in three more years and hope they are as healthy as yours.

What's up with the dried chrysanthemum flowers?

 

[markyscott]

Looking good. I have about 15 I started last year. They're just now pushing new growth. It was my first attempt. They really didn't do much last year. I guess they were just growing roots. I repotted them a couple weeks ago and they've responded well. Can't wait to see them in three more years and hope they are as healthy as yours.

What's up with the dried chrysanthemum flowers?

LOL! Those are teabags filled with fertilizer.

S

 

[RobertB]

Any updates on these available? Would love to see the progress on these.

 

[markyscott]

Any updates on these available? Would love to see the progress on these.

Sure. Here are a few pictures from this morning.



Scott

 

[wlambeth]

Great

 

[wlambeth]

Here's what I understand about the geographic varieties of Japanese Black Pine:

Any Japanese black pine originating from Awaji Island in the Hyōgo Prefecture is considered to be an Awaji. A nice silver gray color bark that flakes off the tree. Awaji has thick bark, but at some point will start to flake off and not get any thicker.
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Any Japanese black pine originating from the Aichii Prefecture is considered to be a Mikawa. Distinguished by its deeply fissured and flaking, deep bluish colored bark. Sometimes the bark begins to crack and show ridges in about four years. Tends to grow very thick bark which also tends to be a lot harder so it doesn't flake off as easy.
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Here is a map showing the locations of the mentioned prefectures.
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Scheffields advertises that they have a source for Mikawa:
https://www.sheffields.com/

Let us know what you find.
Scott

Wow they have a great selection of seeds.
Thank you for posting such a valuable resource!

 

[my nellie]

Sure. Here are a few pictures from this morning.

Impressive!
So, these are the seedling cuttings made on Aug 26, 2016 post #6 ?
Consequently the new trees are 19 months old?

 

[markyscott]

Impressive!
So, these are the seedling cuttings made on Aug 26, 2016 post #6 ?
Consequently the new trees are 19 months old?

That’s when I made the first post. I took the cuttings on April 21, 2015. The seeds were planted a few weeks before that. So they’re 35 months old now and have seen 3 growing seasons.

Scott

 

[my nellie]

Thank you for your reply, @markyscott
Impressive, as I said above!

 

[sorce]

@markyscott @0soyoung

I often think about cutting the tip of the stem as soon as it exits the seed, in thoughts that we may be able to utilize the energy in the cotyledons alone to quicker and more safely produce radial roots....

Past experiments?
Thoughts?
Scientifical Proof enough to not try?
Oval wheel?

My JBP contest seedlings are.....Indoors.
(Don't stand a chance, waste of time, etc)

But I aim to pop some more in the veg tray soon.

Sorce

 

[markyscott]

@markyscott @0soyoung

I often think about cutting the tip of the stem as soon as it exits the seed, in thoughts that we may be able to utilize the energy in the cotyledons alone to quicker and more safely produce radial roots....

Past experiments?
Thoughts?
Scientifical Proof enough to not try?
Oval wheel?

My JBP contest seedlings are.....Indoors.
(Don't stand a chance, waste of time, etc)

But I aim to pop some more in the veg tray soon.

Sorce

Give it a go, src. The key thin though is to get the roots as close to the cotyledons as possible. I’m not sure how you would do that with just the root, but I’d be curious to see how it works for you.

S

 

[Fonz]

@markyscott Mine look like this now. Only 3 weeks old. No real needles yet. Would you say it's time to start the cuttings already? Isn't it too soon?

 

[markyscott]

@markyscott Mine look like this now. Only 3 weeks old. No real needles yet. Would you say it's time to start the cuttings already? Isn't it too soon?

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I think I’d perhaps wait a bit until the first needles mature more.

S

 

[dirk hoorelbeke]

They look a bit leggy (dark covering?), But after cutting it will be no problem. For timing last time I did it at 3 different timings. Very early. Early like yours now. And late (when the new actual needles reach the height of the first needles). Last timing had more uniform and better results for me.

 

[River's Edge]

@markyscott Mine look like this now. Only 3 weeks old. No real needles yet. Would you say it's time to start the cuttings already? Isn't it too soon?

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I wait until the second set of needles is pushing open. The reasoning is that this give double the food production and auxin to regrow the roots quickly. Works better than following the original interpretation of colour change.

 

[markyscott]

 

[River's Edge]

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Curious about the tall pot condominium is it for ROR or Exposed?

 

[markyscott]

Curious about the tall pot condominium is it for ROR or Exposed?

That’s for exposed root. I have some ROR going too.

Scott