Traken Amur

Traken

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For my b-day last month, my wife let me pick out a tree from the Hidden Gardens, and I wound up getting a really chunky triple trunk amur maple. I love amurs, since they look at our cold weather and just laugh at it. I finally managed to get some pictures that don't entirely suck, so I thought it was about time I made a thread for it. The foliage is blocking the trunks a bit, but it's had some slight carving started on it at the HG, that I'll continue at some point after I've had a chance to practice on some junk wood at some point. I definitely don't want to learn to carve on this. lol

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oh yeah! there is a great tree in there for sure. It'll be nice to get a closer look at all of the branching once those leaves drop. If it were me, id embrace the trunks not having a ton of movement and add interest and intrigue to the base with some more carving. Ramify the shit out of it! great score dude! this will be a fun one to follow.
 
oh yeah! there is a great tree in there for sure. It'll be nice to get a closer look at all of the branching once those leaves drop. If it were me, id embrace the trunks not having a ton of movement and add interest and intrigue to the base with some more carving. Ramify the shit out of it! great score dude! this will be a fun one to follow.

Thanks, man. That's kinda my thought as well. The pics don't show it, but some of the branches are already semi-trained as new leaders and are just thickening up, so some movement will be able to come from them as well, but I'm most excited about the carving possibilities and just getting it super ramified. Most of the stock I have is super young and needs major development, so having something further along is really exciting.
 
Its going to be so nice to see this tree naked. I also love a good amur and am currently looking for a good one myself. They ramify so nicely.
 
They're like the cold weather trident. Heh.
They take heat very well also. Here in NM it gets awfully dry and hot for several weeks during the summer and until mine blew off of its bench and sat out of its pot for a full day and died, it was thriving.
 
They take heat very well also. Here in NM it gets awfully dry and hot for several weeks during the summer and until mine blew off of its bench and sat out of its pot for a full day and died, it was thriving.

Crap, man, that sucks. Sorry to hear it. =/

As I don't know NM climate at all, do you have any trouble with the tree getting dormancy, or do your winter temps drop enough for it to achieve proper dormancy? Sorry for the ignorance.
 
def gets cold enough. not chicago cold, but cold. We got down to a low of 5 degrees for a full week this winter, which is cold for Abq. Normally though we hover right around 15 to 30 for a low during the coldest months. No issues with dormancy or branching. it certainly wasn't a specimen tree but it was one I was looking forward to developing.
 
def gets cold enough. not chicago cold, but cold. We got down to a low of 5 degrees for a full week this winter, which is cold for Abq. Normally though we hover right around 15 to 30 for a low during the coldest months. No issues with dormancy or branching. it certainly wasn't a specimen tree but it was one I was looking forward to developing.

Ah, ok. Yeah, that's definitely cold enough. I hear you on losing stuff that you were looking forward to working. This super cold past winter we had combine with my lack of experience took out more things than I'd care.
 
Ah, ok. Yeah, that's definitely cold enough. I hear you on losing stuff that you were looking forward to working. This super cold past winter we had combine with my lack of experience took out more things than I'd care.
Yeah I lost several trees this last winter. I def didn’t winter over things as I usually do. Paired with a colder and wetter than usual winter, things were bound to go south.
 
Man that’s a dope amur, I’m hoping to add a fat one to my collection one day. Sounds like the wife is a keeper. Can’t wait to see the progress.
 
Just got my first Amur this summer. I love this species so far. Didn’t flinch at 100+ degree heat and are supposedly super cold hardy too. Perfect for my climate.

Very jealous of yours! Can’t wait to see the progress on this one.
 
Just got my first Amur this summer. I love this species so far. Didn’t flinch at 100+ degree heat and are supposedly super cold hardy too. Perfect for my climate.

Very jealous of yours! Can’t wait to see the progress on this one.

They’re super cold hardy. I have a smaller one that I got at a workshop last year, and it sat outside on the ground on the north side of the house all winter, no mulch, through multiple days in a row of -20F and below, and just laughed it off. I love how cold hardy these trees are.
 
They’re super cold hardy. I have a smaller one that I got at a workshop last year, and it sat outside on the ground on the north side of the house all winter, no mulch, through multiple days in a row of -20F and below, and just laughed it off. I love how cold hardy these trees are.
There are lots of trees that are very cold hardy.
I know all about cold hardy trees.
I also just got another Arctic Trident.
A big bugger.
 
So, I had the amur at a small maple workshop this weekend to formulate a sort of plan for it, and I think we got that somewhat figured out. I'll grab some better pics, but these are all I could grab at the home where the workshop was held, so the background is ultra cluttered, and the photos aren't composed at all. Sorry about that.

Here's a quick photo of the foliage. It's not a good shot, but it's been so windy lately, that I wanted to grab at least something before all the leaves blew off. My other small maple was a beautiful red, but the leaves all blasted off in a day.

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As expected, this one didn't keep the leaves on very long, either. Here's before we started doing any work.

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Due to the slingshot look that has and the straight as a pole middle trunk, we turned it around to find a better front. The best one seemed to unfortunately have a root coming straight at you, but everything else made up for it. I'll probably need to get some experience with root grafting at some point to make up for the fact that there just aren't any real surface roots other than the in your face one.

We reduced one branch down to get some variance between their heights and cleaned up some of the cuts a little. This will still take some carving/grinding to clean stuff up, but that wasn't for this workshop. I still need to tweak/wire a couple other branches (excuse my lazy, sloppy wiring. lol) but I'm digging this as a front.

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One thing that came up, and I'd love for some input on, is a pot. I believe this will need a repot in the spring, and I always assumed it was a very masculine tree, with the thick triple trunks and the large main trunk, so I figured it'd need a fairly deep rectangle of some sort.

At the workshop, the ones running it were telling me it needs an oval or a rounded rectangle, since it was fairly feminine. (Or something like that. I'm paraphrasing, as I forget their exact wording.) I tried to get a better understanding, but I think they thought I was just questioning their thoughts rather than just trying to understand why they thought it should be in an oval or something like that. What do all of you think? I notice Walter Pall has a couple large Amurs, and they're also in rounded pots, which all look great. Maybe it's just a matter of me needing to have it sitting in an oval or something to see it, but can anyone help me understand why feminine is the correct choice? I guess I'm just curious what is feminine about the tree, other than the sparse branching, which will of course get more dense over the years.

I'll grab some better pics later this week when I have a chance to add a couple more pieces of wire and get it in a cleaner spot to take photos.
 
Traken, I would agree to go with an oval pot for this tree. In general, and of course there are always exceptions, the round, billowy silhouette of deciduous trees lend themselves better to a softer container. Look at Walter's amur maples. They all have hefty bases but they look great in their oval pots.

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Traken, I would agree to go with an oval pot for this tree. In general, and of course there are always exceptions, the round, billowy silhouette of deciduous trees lend themselves better to a softer container. Look at Walter's amur maples. They all have hefty bases but they look great in their oval pots.

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Thanks, @MACH5. So is it the curvature of the canopy that lends the feminine qualities? I agree entirely that Walter's maples look great in the ovals. Do you think that using an oval with sharp features or edges would blend the feminine and masculine qualities of a tree with a strong base but soft canopy? Sorry for the stupid questions. I'm just trying to learn a little more about what works rather than just seeing seeing a good tree/pot combo and not knowing why the choices were made. That, and the pot for this tree will likely be expensive, so I can't afford to buy a bunch of options to try. Haha.
 
Be sure to post a picture of the back, 180 degrees from your chosen front. My own taste without seeing the tree in person would be to put the middle trunk in front. It is also your largest diameter trunk, so putting it in front would accentuate the impression of size.

I like it. Glad to see you are working with Amur. Great maple for the great frozen north.
 
Be sure to post a picture of the back, 180 degrees from your chosen front. My own taste without seeing the tree in person would be to put the middle trunk in front. It is also your largest diameter trunk, so putting it in front would accentuate the impression of size.

I like it. Glad to see you are working with Amur. Great maple for the great frozen north.

Will do. There was something about the opposite side that made it not as nice, I think, but I forget exactly what it was. I'll grab photos of all sides when I have a chance to set up for some better pics.
 
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