Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
Yes, the needle foliage is the juvenile form of the foliage.....I think he meant to say needle.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
Just let it grow out at this point. If you continue to prune it will stay in the juvenile form of foliage. It will take a couple of seasons to revert back if you don't cut.
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Shohin
Yup, my bad. I used the wrong word. This needle foliage is the juvenile foliage.
Balbs
Shohin
This thing is going to be really shaggy by then. Looking forward to seeing your thread on your old gold update!
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
Mine is extremely leggy/shaggy on one side. I wired up one side couple months ago and pruned as well. The other half is wild and out of control. I need to do that side this month sometime. I just started to get the scale foliage back. After I prune the other side it will probably revert back to juvenile foliage. A lot of branches have set but still need wire to keep them up, if not they will just sag.
Eckhoffw
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Shohin
At the rate these grow, it’s hard to imagine not pruning quite hard every season and always having juvenile foliage.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
I've had that same thought. If we continue to prune hard every year at what point will we see scale type foliage. My 'Old Gold' has put out a ton of foliage, but I have not see much growth on the trunk in terms of girth. I have several 'Sea Green' junipers still in nursery pots that I can visually tell their trunks have gotten thicker over the past year.
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Shohin
I actually don’t mind the needle foliage, it seems denser than the scale ropes that were discussed earlier in this thread. If you continue to cut juvenile foliage on junipers, do they die or lose branches or something?
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
IMO... aesthetics aside, juvenile foliage is just more vigorous, "provides more" is more accurate I guess.. So cutting it more shouldn't hurt anything so long as it's not throwing j foil cuz it's bare and almost dead.
Sorce
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
In my experience, the more juvenile foliage you cut the more you get.
Wires_Guy_wires
Imperial Masterpiece
Scale foliage is the mature foliage. But these buggers, like many junipers, tend to go juvenile when they're either stressed by pruning, or when they're growing vigorously because they have extra root space.
Edit: go for the backbuds. They will produce scale foliage somewhere next year. At some point, it'll be enough to safely remove the rest in phases.
Balbs
Shohin
Last summer
Balbs
Shohin
Just reported. I realize I got the angle wrong, but happy to have it in this pot and out of that nursery can.
Pitoon
Imperial Masterpiece
I'm actually thinking to split my twin trunk into separate smaller pots.
Balbs
Shohin
How come? I remember liking the design you were working on.
I was considering trying to graft better foliage onto this one.
I was considering trying to graft better foliage onto this one.
Pitoon
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The trunks are too thin in my opinion. I was thinking to make them more of a bunjin style by removing some of the lower branches and potting them up in a smaller pot.
I'll post some pics of mine on my thread later today.
Balbs
Shohin
After a couple years of not being able to tighten the foliage, I want to try my hand at approach grafting. So I bought some Kishu whips. But they came in smaller than I was expecting and it’s hard to get the trunks close to where I’d like to graft because the pots are in the way. Curious if anybody with grafting experience had any suggestions?
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coltranem
Chumono
Just sent you a message.
Balbs
Shohin
Fingers crossed!
