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Al should be able to tell me if this contains humus or not. I've been brewing it for the last couple of years and use it in the spring and after repotting, it contains worm poop and the secret ingredient is molasses. I have a 6.5 gallon brewer. Does it work, damn if I know, my trees do pretty well, but I have no proof this stuff is responsible. This should stimulate some good diatribe and maybe I'll find out if this has some value or just another snake oil and I'm wasting my time.

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Harry do you remember the nutty gardener guy on HGTV, I saw an episode where he made his own fertilizer. The ingrediants included soda, beer, ammonia, etc., I think basically the kit you put up takes typical ingrediants and cooks em up into something that when put in the growing medium adds good stuff to the soil. There are probably better, most likely there are worse.

Have you ever had your soil "tested" to get a scientific breakdown of you soil's micro/macro nutrient, mineral, content, or ph etc.??

Maybe that is why some of your trees are sweet as mollassas.:D All I can say is you are doing something right.
 

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Harry do you remember the nutty gardener guy on HGTV, I saw an episode where he made his own fertilizer. The ingrediants included soda, beer, ammonia, etc., I think basically the kit you put up takes typical ingrediants and cooks em up into something that when put in the growing medium adds good stuff to the soil. There are probably better, most likely there are worse.

Have you ever had your soil "tested" to get a scientific breakdown of you soil's micro/macro nutrient, mineral, content, or ph etc.??

Maybe that is why some of your trees are sweet as mollassas.:D All I can say is you are doing something right.
My bonsai soil consists of Hyuga, Lava rock, Akadama and Charcoal, I don't think I need to have it tested.....;)

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No opinions, I thought someone would call me an idiot...........:eek:

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I do Harry but I don't dare open my mouth. :rolleyes:

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We are going to use some strange words like "humification" so what do you think?

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Not a word I'm familiar with, educate me. All my life I've been told that earth worms are benifical to the soil.

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I noticed you have a koi pond with a mechanical and bio filter, was it a beed filter? Now think in terms of aerobic and anaerobic bacteria and their interaction in the bio filter. The humification is that synergy idea but in soil for starters. Got to go but will build on this later if you would like? Are we safe so far?;)

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I noticed you have a koi pond with a mechanical and bio filter, was it a beed filter? Now think in terms of aerobic and anaerobic bacteria and their interaction in the bio filter. The humification is that synergy idea but in soil for starters. Got to go but will build on this later if you would like? Are we safe so far?;)

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No problem !

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Harry, your an idiot!

I don't know what that did for you but I feel like havin a smoke!
 

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The worm poop contains about 8 to 9 percent humic by volume. The sugar leftovers from your brewing setup is pretty well on its way to being composted after it has done its job making beer. I suspect that this concoction would make a good fetilizer since rape seed cakes are simply leftovers from making cooking oil. Works well in Japanese pooh balls so should be good with what you are doing.
 

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Harry, your an idiot!

I don't know what that did for you but I feel like havin a smoke!
Any thing to help a friend out that's having trouble with.........never mind.

My soil mix is already aerobic, but blending this mix even helps keep it that way, it's good for about 24 hours and the sugar helps the mix stick to the inorganic mixture of my soil, exposing the fertilizer to the roots for a longer period of time, instead of washing away with the next watering.

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Just a liitle humic acid did wonders for this punky. Imagine what it could do for your jbp nebari?? Honey, have you seen my black pine? Yea I sure have. It broke down the fence and it's eating our neighbors vegetable garden.

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Awesome pumpkin Red Truck. Is it yours? I'll have to try some humic acid on my not so giant pumpkins next year!

Come to think of it, I'll have to try some humic acid with my viagra..............
 

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Not my effort Bob but nice to see a sense of humor. Humic acid will not creat that. Aliquippa hey... no wonder, my mentor was from there who also had a sense of humor remember size is everything.

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Awesome pumpkin Red Truck. Is it yours? I'll have to try some humic acid on my not so giant pumpkins next year!

Come to think of it, I'll have to try some humic acid with my viagra..............
Hey Bob, sounds like your wasting your money on Viagra................:eek:

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In nature humus is constantly introduced into soil as plant debris, dead animals, and other organic matter that decomposes on the ground. Through the alchemy of bacteria, fungi, and other resident micro-life activity, this organic material is reduced by degrees to its soft, spongy essence, called humus. It permeates the top few inches of the soil through rains and the good offices of EARTHWORMS and other macro-organisms, where it continually revitalizes the soil around plant roots.

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In nature humus is constantly introduced into soil as plant debris, dead animals, and other organic matter that decomposes on the ground. Through the alchemy of bacteria, fungi, and other resident micro-life activity, this organic material is reduced by degrees to its soft, spongy essence, called humus. It permeates the top few inches of the soil through rains and the good offices of EARTHWORMS and other macro-organisms, where it continually revitalizes the soil around plant roots.

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Harry
Hey Harry, One thing we have up here in the PMW is HUMUS ….lots of it, on our forest floors and what you describe is what we call a mull humus form, which is relatively thin as compared to the moder and mor humus forms. These latter two are thicker (the mull much thicker) and the biological activity is a lot less as they are found at moderate and higher elevations.
From Al’s posts on this matter I got some (liquid humic acid) and applied it this summer but haven’t really seen a big difference but that’s probably because I use a product called SEASOIL (google it if interested) and I’m sure its got a lot of humic acid in it already.
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Not my effort Bob but nice to see a sense of humor. Humic acid will not creat that. Aliquippa hey... no wonder, my mentor was from there who also had a sense of humor remember size is everything.

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The big home farmers here in Fresno grow some pretty big pumpkins for the County Fair. The winner this year was about 244 pounds. Small by record pumpkin standards but still a large pumpkin. All the big shots are usuing humic acid by the pound as well as orchid and violet growers.
 

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