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Hello,

I just wanted to dump in a load of pics of a few lovely trees that I picked up from BobbyLane. Thanks again to him :).

There's a link to the whole album with multiple of each tree, but I will just post 1 pic of each on here, as to not take up too much space. These were all re-potted today. There is also an Alder in a shallow bonsai pot, and European Beech which is tall and awaiting a chop, pot bound so will be re-potted very shortly.
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Chinese Elm #3
Chinese Elm #2.jpg

Chinese Elm #4
Chinese Elm #3.jpg

Chinese Elm #5

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Olive Stump

Olive Stump.jpg

I was also rather happy with my wiring of this large pot (it was the widest pot I had to use for that stump because I had mis-judged how wide it is...)
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As I said, there are many other pics of each in the link above. Let me know any thoughts please.
I was fairly happy with my re-potting, getting better at it. Only concern I have is that there are long roots on a few elms (pics of root system in the link) and I worry that these roots might not be deep enough, but they are completely covered by substrate.
 

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Hello,

I just wanted to dump in a load of pics of a few lovely trees that I picked up from BobbyLane. Thanks again to him :).

There's a link to the whole album with multiple of each tree, but I will just post 1 pic of each on here, as to not take up too much space. These were all re-potted today. There is also an Alder in a shallow bonsai pot, and European Beech which is tall and awaiting a chop, pot bound so will be re-potted very shortly.
http://imgur.com/a/t5Boy

Chinese Elm #3
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Chinese Elm #4
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Chinese Elm #5

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Olive Stump

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I was also rather happy with my wiring of this large pot (it was the widest pot I had to use for that stump because I had mis-judged how wide it is...)
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As I said, there are many other pics of each in the link above. Let me know any thoughts please.
I was fairly happy with my re-potting, getting better at it. Only concern I have is that there are long roots on a few elms (pics of root system in the link) and I worry that these roots might not be deep enough, but they are completely covered by substrate.
I see you used proper anchoring techniques in that terracotta pot ;)
Some nice little trees there, have fun with them.

Aaron
 

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any thoughts


Keep an eye on the drainage of the pot you wired. I don't like that the rim at the bottom acting as "feet" doesn't seem to offer up much room for drainage, not so much as a small notch or something. With the wire there, does it even sit flat? Seems to be a weird "shelf" on the inside of the container towards the bottom.....:confused:


Elms are fun!! Start 'em up!!;):)
 

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Looking good Mr dash, you've potted them up quite well! the olive would have been better to repot in summer, but im sure it will be fine in its new pot, it will be far happier in the cat litter anyway. the olive was outside all winter in a pot full of cat litter and compost, seems to be doin just fine.
i wouldnt worry too much about the elm roots, you can reduce and compact them over 2 or 3 re pottings. if worried about the longer roots near the soil level, you can top dress with chopped spagnum moss, this will keep everything humid and moist while the roots establish, it can be left on until into summer.
the elms are a little scraggley atm, over the season you can clip and grow them, you can prune back and use a little wire here and there.

good vid on pruning elms

re the olive, does that pot drain very quickly when watering? you dont want it pooling in the bottom. the pot should drain completely within 7 secs if im not mistaken.
 

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I see you used proper anchoring techniques in that terracotta pot ;)
Some nice little trees there, have fun with them.

Aaron
Yes :), I was reading the bonsaitonight topic on different holed pots, wiring techniques. Was happy that I had a chance to try it.
Keep an eye on the drainage of the pot you wired. I don't like that the rim at the bottom acting as "feet" doesn't seem to offer up much room for drainage, not so much as a small notch or something. With the wire there, does it even sit flat? Seems to be a weird "shelf" on the inside of the container towards the bottom.....:confused:


Elms are fun!! Start 'em up!!;):)
Yeah, thank you for pointing it out. No it didn't sit flat, but I have a load of little pot stands/feet which are under it now, raising it about an inch off the ground so it can drain.
But the fact it only has 1 hole and that shelf is concerning. Im not sure how I can keep an eye on it but the roots are no where near the bottom yet so, worst case scenario the water pools but it doesn't affect the tree much because its not sitting in the water. Let me know if you think there is something else I can do? It was the widest pot I had, wasn't my first choice :/. Nice pot though, I like its shape. Maybe not so much for bonsai lol.

Looking good Mr dash, you've potted them up quite well! the olive would have been better to repot in summer, but im sure it will be fine in its new pot, it will be far happier in the cat litter anyway. the olive was outside all winter in a pot full of cat litter and compost, seems to be doin just fine.
i wouldnt worry too much about the elm roots, you can reduce and compact them over 2 or 3 re pottings. if worried about the longer roots near the soil level, you can top dress with chopped spagnum moss, this will keep everything humid and moist while the roots establish, it can be left on until into summer.
the elms are a little scraggley atm, over the season you can clip and grow them, you can prune back and use a little wire here and there.

good vid on pruning elms

re the olive, does that pot drain very quickly when watering? you dont want it pooling in the bottom. the pot should drain completely within 7 secs if im not mistaken.
I told them all to stand up straight, fit themselves up and look smart, cos of the pics which you will undoubtedly see :).
To be honest, I thought it had to be potted asap cos it wasn't exactly in a pot when we handled it on Sunday? But thinking now, it had plenty of soil round it so I guess it would have lasted quite a while in that?
I will certainly root prune them in a year or 2, when next re-potted, just for this first time I wanted them to be as happy and healthy as they can be. Also I could see the branches needed a good prune so I didn't want to weaken the roots by pruning then prune branches too. Oh yes, the moss, thank you for the tip. Its something I've read about a few times and in combat of keeping healthy surface roots. I will use that if need be :).
Ill give it a watch. Im quite sure I've seen that one before but I certainly dont remember every video I watch, after just 1 watch!

I want to get them all happy and healthy, the elms leafing out and then perhaps get a thread on them, a bit more separate, for anyone's future styling advice. At the moment, I am quite content that they are well potted, secure and should flourish. I HOPE!

Ill test that 7 second thing tomorrow when I water them :). Ill test it with all trees in proper bonsai pots and in training ones.
 

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I'd start cutting stuff off that you don't want now so energy isn't wasted opening buds that you'll be cutting off later. Don't let those apical buds out at the end of long shoots get all the energy.

I should have referred to the Elms as the candidates to be pruned. Hence this little edit!;)
 
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Some of the soil dropped out of the alder pot, so hope you topped it back up, you can download all the pics on its progression here https://www.flickr.com/photos/138823275@N03/albums/72157670379137101 they like a lot of water in summer, they're a thirsty tree, its in mainly organics and some cat litter, i would leave it like this as the pot is shallow.
the buds on the beech wont be moving yet, they're one of the slowest to get going, so i wouldnt rush to re pot yet, but you can chop it to the height you want. you could even wait. as ive already chopped it, you could wait and see where it back buds before chopping again, you can see how tall it was before
2016-10-23_09-16-36 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr

so maybe wait to see where it pops and you might get some future design options. still might be able to build a taller, slender tree.
 

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I'd start cutting stuff off that you don't want now so energy isn't wasted opening buds that you'll be cutting off later. Don't let those apical buds out at the end of long shoots get all the energy.

I should have referred to the Elms as the candidates to be pruned. Hence this little edit!;)
Well, my thinking was that most of that energy is already in the branches and has been transferred, as its nearly time for the buds to open. So cutting now, would lose its energy. Was thinking I would let the buds open and leaves start producing more energy, basically paying for their rent, then cut them. Get the energy balance a bit better. What do you think? I could be completely wrong lol.

Some of the soil dropped out of the alder pot, so hope you topped it back up, you can download all the pics on its progression here https://www.flickr.com/photos/138823275@N03/albums/72157670379137101 they like a lot of water in summer, they're a thirsty tree, its in mainly organics and some cat litter, i would leave it like this as the pot is shallow.
the buds on the beech wont be moving yet, they're one of the slowest to get going, so i wouldnt rush to re pot yet, but you can chop it to the height you want. you could even wait. as ive already chopped it, you could wait and see where it back buds before chopping again, you can see how tall it was before
_09-16-36 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr

so maybe wait to see where it pops and you might get some future design options. still might be able to build a taller, slender tree.
Thanks for the link :). Do you have any older pics of the other trees at all?
I was going to repot the Alder in to litter, same pot, at some point. Was gonna read up on it a bit first. If they are thirsty + spring and summer climate + 100% inorganic mix... I imagine that may be bordering on too often watering which I couldn't keep up with maybe. So yeah, maybe you are right. Maybe keeping it simple Ill try for 50/50 organic and litter. I did notice its pot had soil missing, haven't put any more in yet. Wouldn't really know what to put in, just normal garden soil?

I will wait with the beech then. I like its slender trunk at the moment, would love to make that better with great taper over the years. As my first chop and grow though, just hope I can keep it all seamless and smooth, no ugly bits.
Its pretty pot bound, I thought it'd be a pretty urgent thing to get it repotted? Was gonna keep it in that pot though, good space for growing.
 

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Well, my thinking was that most of that energy is already in the branches and has been transferred, as its nearly time for the buds to open. So cutting now, would lose its energy. Was thinking I would let the buds open and leaves start producing more energy, basically paying for their rent, then cut them. Get the energy balance a bit better. What do you think? I could be completely wrong lol.



Thanks for the link :). Do you have any older pics of the other trees at all?
I was going to repot the Alder in to litter, same pot, at some point. Was gonna read up on it a bit first. If they are thirsty + spring and summer climate + 100% inorganic mix... I imagine that may be bordering on too often watering which I couldn't keep up with maybe. So yeah, maybe you are right. Maybe keeping it simple Ill try for 50/50 organic and litter. I did notice its pot had soil missing, haven't put any more in yet. Wouldn't really know what to put in, just normal garden soil?

I will wait with the beech then. I like its slender trunk at the moment, would love to make that better with great taper over the years. As my first chop and grow though, just hope I can keep it all seamless and smooth, no ugly bits.
Its pretty pot bound, I thought it'd be a pretty urgent thing to get it repotted? Was gonna keep it in that pot though, good space for growing.
Dont be in a rush to re pot everything in site, the alder doesnt need it, was only put in that pot last spring. if you like the pot, it will be good in there for 2-3 or more years. could just top it back up to the level you see in the pics with a little cat litter. a pot bound tree isnt a reason for it to be re potted. it still drains fine and you can see by the pic, it was healthy. you could chop it and leave it in there if need be to power new growth for a season. once it goes in a bonsai pot, growth slows to a crawl. leave it in there and give it some chicken pellets.

only pics i have of the elms is when they were part of the forest
IMAG3016 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
afde8308-5923-4e16-84e9-f41ee35291a8 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr
 
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Dont be in a rush to re pot everything in site, the alder doesnt need it, was only put in that pot last spring. if you like the pot, it will be good in there for 2-3 or more years. could just top it back up to the level you see in the pics with a little cat litter. a pot bound tree isnt a reason for it to be re potted. it still drains fine and you can see by the pic, it was healthy. you could chop it and leave it in there if need be to power new growth for a season. once it goes in a bonsai pot, growth slows to a crawl. leave it in there and give it some chicken pellets.

only pics i have of the elms is when they were part of the forest
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Lol, make me sound like a maniac :). Well the elms and Olive weren't in pots so I was quick to sort those out. The beech, I didn't realise they could stay pot bound like that for so much longer, I thought it would be bad for their health. So thats a lesson learnt, thank you :). Im happy to leave it like that, I know it'll have strong growth and plenty of roots to supply it, so thats fine by me, completely. Also won't need watering too often in that soil (and its currently raining quite a bit, so theres that).
Im happy to leave the alder, but yeah as you say, top it up. It currently has the mix I got from you, in it. Is it normal to put just a completely different, inorganic mix on top and/or around that? Apart from looking odd lol.
Oh that tub you have and I have seen with many people, they use for keeping stuff tidy when repotting. Where did you get it or what do you call it? Been looking for one! Would be great to have, but I seem to only find small ones. Or kids looking ones.
 

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Lol, make me sound like a maniac :). Well the elms and Olive weren't in pots so I was quick to sort those out. The beech, I didn't realise they could stay pot bound like that for so much longer, I thought it would be bad for their health. So thats a lesson learnt, thank you :). Im happy to leave it like that, I know it'll have strong growth and plenty of roots to supply it, so thats fine by me, completely. Also won't need watering too often in that soil (and its currently raining quite a bit, so theres that).
Im happy to leave the alder, but yeah as you say, top it up. It currently has the mix I got from you, in it. Is it normal to put just a completely different, inorganic mix on top and/or around that? Apart from looking odd lol.
Oh that tub you have and I have seen with many people, they use for keeping stuff tidy when repotting. Where did you get it or what do you call it? Been looking for one! Would be great to have, but I seem to only find small ones. Or kids looking ones.
The olive was in a black plastic tub remember and the elms i'd just dug and put in a plastic tub, but not bonsai pots. for the alder, you could mix a handful of cat litter with a little compost and top it up. oh the potting tub is from hombase, probably get it cheaper on amazon, can't remember what they call them, check the garden section in homebase they're cheap.
 

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Damn Bro....!

I wish I could have a Bobbylane tree!

Very cool.

Very very cool!

I love that this love is able to spread out there and we got, what like 8 New Brits in the last month for you'se to trade with!

Awesome!

Hell yeah Dizash!

Sorce
 

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The olive was in a black plastic tub remember and the elms i'd just dug and put in a plastic tub, but not bonsai pots. for the alder, you could mix a handful of cat litter with a little compost and top it up. oh the potting tub is from hombase, probably get it cheaper on amazon, can't remember what they call them, check the garden section in homebase they're cheap.
Well yeh of course they came in those tubs but I wasn't really counting that as potted lol. Cos I k ew they had just been dug up from your allotment for me, so I had planned to put in more permanent homes :).
I'll look for that, I have been looking on amazon for tubs like that but having no luck. All about the search terms I use. I'm sure it's there, just gotta find it.
I'll do that with some compost, I've got that..

Damn Bro....!

I wish I could have a Bobbylane tree!

Very cool.

Very very cool!

I love that this love is able to spread out there and we got, what like 8 New Brits in the last month for you'se to trade with!

Awesome!

Hell yeah Dizash!

Sorce
It is good :). Yeh we do seem to have a flux of new brits recently, I wonder why! they need to be living nearer to me lol.
 
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