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My English is not to good, but I will try my best!

Last year I managed to collect some Austrian Black Pine Seedlings, as you can tell, some of them are a bit bigger and some are super tiny.
All of them do pretty good and they all have good healthy roots so far.
I am not sure yet where I will go with those Seedlings, but I will see when they grow a bit bigger.
The big bushy Green one is a dwarf Mugo pine. It is crafted so I am not quite sure how to proceed with this Tree.

What do you all think so far?
 

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The saplings are looking OK, but they could sure be stronger! Give them another year to bush out and get stronger, that's what I would do.

As for the mugo, I would start thinking of a design and look at which branches to keep.
 

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The saplings are looking OK, but they could sure be stronger! Give them another year to bush out and get stronger, that's what I would do.

As for the mugo, I would start thinking of a design and look at which branches to keep.
Most of the branches are all in a circle on the stem, its going to be hard to pick one hahaha

As for the Saplings, I wont do much besides wire and fertilizer
 

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Most of the branches are all in a circle on the stem, its going to be hard to pick one hahaha

As for the Saplings, I wont do much besides wire and fertilizer
Definitely will want to reduce the number of branches at each whorl on the mugo or you’re going to end up with some ugly swelling like I have on my pine. Didn’t notice it when I bought it because it was so bushy. Immediately had buyers remorse. I think I might actually air layer off the top in the future.
 

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My English is not to good, but I will try my best!

Last year I managed to collect some Austrian Black Pine Seedlings, as you can tell, some of them are a bit bigger and some are super tiny.
All of them do pretty good and they all have good healthy roots so far.
I am not sure yet where I will go with those Seedlings, but I will see when they grow a bit bigger.
The big bushy Green one is a dwarf Mugo pine. It is crafted so I am not quite sure how to proceed with this Tree.

What do you all think so far?
The advantage of growing from seed or very young is you have complete control . So exercise that control . So wire and add a lot of movement that is so desirable . While you have the ability when there young concentrate on movement lowdown on the trunk . It’s never to early to work in the roots to promote a attractive Nebori or surface roots both are much harder to correct latter Do not consider planting in a small pot that is for much latter consider sacrificial branches to grow a larger trunk . And with complete control you have advantage of difficult styles that are hard to grow any other way like a root over rock concentrate on what it will be not what it is trees grown from seed get a lot of respect in bonsai because of the patience and effort they take so exercise the patience and use the time to create amazing
 

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The advantage of growing from seed or very young is you have complete control . So exercise that control . So wire and add a lot of movement that is so desirable . While you have the ability when there young concentrate on movement lowdown on the trunk . It’s never to early to work in the roots to promote a attractive Nebori or surface roots both are much harder to correct latter Do not consider planting in a small pot that is for much latter consider sacrificial branches to grow a larger trunk . And with complete control you have advantage of difficult styles that are hard to grow any other way like a root over rock concentrate on what it will be not what it is trees grown from seed get a lot of respect in bonsai because of the patience and effort they take so exercise the patience and use the time to create amazing
Austrian Black Pines grow fairly quick! So far they only have very thin and fine roots, none of them particulary stick out atm.

For the Movement I will Bend most of them in crazy curls low on the trunk, there are many videos from japanese Bonsai schools wireing Saplings in crazy Positions, but it looks so nice!

A root over Rock is something I would have to see, the small Saplig will stay small thats for sure, as it has this nice low bend already.
I will see when I wire them! Propably either today or the next few days. Of course I will post Pictures when I am done.
 

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Definitely will want to reduce the number of branches at each whorl on the mugo or you’re going to end up with some ugly swelling like I have on my pine. Didn’t notice it when I bought it because it was so bushy. Immediately had buyers remorse. I think I might actually air layer off the top in the future.
That will be such a hard Decision hahaha, they all look so nice! A Formal upright is propably the best aproach there
 

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On Mugo choice of branches: STUDY, STUDY, STUDY first. Choose one branch to keep at each whorl so remaining branches point both sides & back. Alternating. Study roots/branches to choose front being sure no branch points directly to front of tree. Very basic advice for very basic structure;).
 

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On Mugo choice of branches: STUDY, STUDY, STUDY first. Choose one branch to keep at each whorl so remaining branches point both sides & back. Alternating. Study roots/branches to choose front being sure no branch points directly to front of tree. Very basic advice for very basic structure;).
Alright thanks! Ill keep that in mind when I get my hands on my cutters after work!
 

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Alright here we go, i did some wireing. And before anyone asks, I had to fix some of the Trees with a wire through the plastic pot, so it looks ugly and sticks out to the side. But the Tree is not wiggeling so that counts.
I cut the Top of the Larix, and it looks much better. Most of the small Black pines I could bend in really nice ways. The Cedrus is a new addition and I reduced the lenght of it, added wire and gave it a bend. The Last big one is a Mugo Pine from Nursery Stock. Was hard to figure out where to go with this one, but a lean over/semi cascade looked okay for it.
 

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You wired and styled freshly collected trees? I dont think thats a very good idea
 

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You wired and styled freshly collected trees? I dont think thats a very good idea
No, if you read the first pose carefuly, you would read that I already have them for over a year and that all of them rooted well.
None of the Trees are freshly collected. and a few of them come from healthy big Nursery stock.
If you wait for the wire to long, you wont be able to get desired Shapes.
 
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