Kennett Collection Reduction sale

[Poink88]

The first pic is the one I purchased. The gap on the left hand side is much more apparent in the pictures for some reason. I don't notice it as much in person. The nebari could be better, but it doesn't bother me. Pot by Sara Raynor (I think).

Very nice tree, you chose well.

I think the gap can be easily remedied by a back branch. I bet it is not apparent in person because it depends on the height you view it.

Curious about the price too if it is not private. Thank you.

 

[Jester217300]

Some of the azalea pricing was erratic. I'm not speaking specifically of Chris' tree, but IIRC trees of that size were somewhere in the $900-2000 range.

 

[Don Blackmond]

The first pic is the one I purchased. The gap on the left hand side is much more apparent in the pictures for some reason. I don't notice it as much in person. The nebari could be better, but it doesn't bother me. Pot by Sara Raynor (I think).

The next two pictures are ones that were still unclaimed as of about 1:15pm on Friday. I spent a lot of time considering the first of the two. I thought both of them would look much better in a couple years of attention to the unruly branching and arrangement. It got to the point that I was wondering what was wrong with these trees that they weren't sold. I felt like I was missing something.

Chris

its good to have negative space with satsuki. i would not be concerned in the slightest. great tree. well done.

 

[CHUCHIN]

The first pic is the one I purchased. The gap on the left hand side is much more apparent in the pictures for some reason. I don't notice it as much in person. The nebari could be better, but it doesn't bother me. Pot by Sara Raynor (I think).

The next two pictures are ones that were still unclaimed as of about 1:15pm on Friday. I spent a lot of time considering the first of the two. I thought both of them would look much better in a couple years of attention to the unruly branching and arrangement. It got to the point that I was wondering what was wrong with these trees that they weren't sold. I felt like I was missing something.

Chris

Could any consideration be given to the possibility that the two that remained did so due to price point? For Example, one was almost $4K and in my opinion not as attractive as the one you selected... Maybe most buyers that remained at that time didnt have a 4K budget and wasnt willing to "settle" for any tree just to have a tree especially at that price point? Just wondering...

 

[William N. Valavanis]

As far as the pricing goes for satsuki azaleas, its quite important to know which cultivar the tree is. Two identical looking satsuki azalea bonsai might be of different prices because of the cultivar. Some are expensive while others, often fast growers of old cultivars might be less expensive.

There is more to looking at a bonsai that goes into pricing. Most people do not have the background to evaluate this. That's why Peter Warren in his opening remarks mentioned that the bonsai were "ridiculously priced cheap."

Also the containers come to play when setting prices, as does the origin or artist or history. There was a small rough bark Trident maple which was just sitting there. As soon as my wife and I began discussing it mentioning that it came from Yuji Yoshimura's father, it immediately was sold.

 

[CHUCHIN]

As far as the pricing goes for satsuki azaleas, its quite important to know which cultivar the tree is. Two identical looking satsuki azalea bonsai might be of different prices because of the cultivar. Some are expensive while others, often fast growers of old cultivars might be less expensive.

There is more to looking at a bonsai that goes into pricing. Most people do not have the background to evaluate this. That's why Peter Warren in his opening remarks mentioned that the bonsai were "ridiculously priced cheap."

Also the containers come to play when setting prices, as does the origin or artist or history. There was a small rough bark Trident maple which was just sitting there. As soon as my wife and I began discussing it mentioning that it came from Yuji Yoshimura's father, it immediately was sold.

Agreed Bill...Value is subjective however the way I understand value is gained/measured(in Japan especially) from my readings/studies(including your blog) are the factors you mentioned... The type of cultivar, history, Artist shows won, Container(Which btw doug had some amazing containers) are all important factors...Unfortunately buyers didnt have these details avaible to them the day of Dougs event...

What was available was Price, Appearance, availability and 10 minutes...I actually remember looking at the roughbark you mentioned and passed it because it didnt appeal to me for the price that was being asked...Subjective decisions...In hindsight had this information been available to me I would have paid twice the amount asked for a tree from Yuji Yoshimuras father. WOW

Wish there was a note section included on the tree list to provide this information(history, cultivar etc...) all water under the bridge but I agree with your point... just consideration as to why the wind blew the way it did.

See you in Mid Altlantic...

 

[Jester217300]

I totally agree with both of you. Info cards seem like a necessity that were oddly missing. The info was not even available online.

Additionally buyers were not allowed to pick up the trees and were therefore not able to see chop marks or signatures on pots. I was happy to see that I ended up with another beautiful Sara Raynor pot but had no idea when I purchased it.

 

[BoneSci]

Could any consideration be given to the possibility that the two that remained did so due to price point? For Example, one was almost $4K and in my opinion not as attractive as the one you selected... Maybe most buyers that remained at that time didnt have a 4K budget and wasnt willing to "settle" for any tree just to have a tree especially at that price point? Just wondering...

I agree with you Chuchin, my guess is that was the biggest factor at the end. My overall point was that there were still a few medium-range priced decent trees available to those in the later groups. Although the selection was severely limited - both by price and species. I was extremely lucky that I was there mainly for deciduous species, particularly the azaleas (although I really wanted the attached maple, would have been a great project!)

The second azalea was priced at $2200, the third one was $3600. Mine was cheaper than both.

As far as the pricing goes for satsuki azaleas, its quite important to know which cultivar the tree is. Two identical looking satsuki azalea bonsai might be of different prices because of the cultivar. Some are expensive while others, often fast growers of old cultivars might be less expensive.

Thanks for this, I did not know the cultivar was so important. How difficult is it to find out which cultivars are more 'prized', and does this change in a 'fad-like' manner as different color flowers or something become more/less popular? I wish the culltivar info was available, I don't even know what color the flowers will be.

I'll attach some other pictures I took of some of the already sold trees. Thanks,

Chris