Post em' Up! Non-Coniferous Yamadori in the Americas

[thumblessprimate1]

Yes, jkl. I didn't even know that they're growing out here in the woods. I was out scouting for American Elm and Hackberry. They've got little leaves and small purple fruit on them now.
Sorce, thanks for the reference.

 

[sorce]

orce, thanks

Yeah but hell! I forgot you were in Warm land!
I always forget where you are from.

Sorry!

Sorce

 

[thumblessprimate1]

Here's a ligustrum I was scouting. How's it look? I think I'll chop it in spring and dig it up in fall.

 

[garywood]

TLP, Just a thought. Before you cut use the length as a lever and put a spacer stick between a few of the trunks to change some of the angles on some of the trunks I'm sure you already know but cut at different heights.

 

[thumblessprimate1]

TLP, Just a thought. Before you cut use the length as a lever and put a spacer stick between a few of the trunks to change some of the angles on some of the trunks I'm sure you already know but cut at different heights.

I appreciate that very much. Perhaps I'll begin that work this week. I've used pieces of 1/2 inch pvc for spacers before. I could use set up some guy wires if needed too.

 

[ColinFraser]

I know, thanks for sharing!
What are your plans for this tree? Do you plan on using the other trunks/existing branching? Or removing them?

Reason why I ask, is that often with bougies, I remove everything existing and start from scratch, they grow fast and this helps shoot out new growth up and down the trunk.

I think my plan will be to remove everything from the trunk and start again. I've never seen one quite like this - a formal upright bougainvillea at this size would certainly make an impression!

This is actually the smaller half of a clump that split apart. Unfortunately, it was collected very late in the season (subject to homeowners' desire for it to be gone) and with very little rootage. I have it up against the house for the winter protection, but it's definitely not a sure bet to survive. I am hopeful though!!

 

[thumblessprimate1]

I did some prepping on the ligustrum I'll be collecting next year or the year after. Big trunks hardly budged, so i left them alone. Last post on it here, and I'll start my own thread some other time. A few trunks started to split. I might go back to seal it up today.

 

[A Random User]

I think my plan will be to remove everything from the trunk and start again. I've never seen one quite like this - a formal upright bougainvillea at this size would certainly make an impression!

This is actually the smaller half of a clump that split apart. Unfortunately, it was collected very late in the season (subject to homeowners' desire for it to be gone) and with very little rootage. I have it up against the house for the winter protection, but it's definitely not a sure bet to survive. I am hopeful though!!

I am on my phone and it doesn't show where you are located. So, not sure what type of weather you have.

You can for the most part saw them flat and almost remove all the roots. So, in theory you shouldn't have a problem...
They do not like cold. So, if you have this they need to be protected.

Has it started pushing new growth? Don't know when collected. If it hasn't, I would go ahead and cut everything off. Leave a one inch stump. Often will send out new growth at the base. If pushing new growth, probably best then to wait till summer at earliest, or next year.

 

[thomas22]

Here is my collected Bougie. I just started working on this tree this year. I don't have a current pic but it is already looking better.

 

[ghulst]

Conifers are certainly not all that matters. Beautiful bonsai is what matters.i have dug a couple of Russian olive this fall and hope that they grow as good as yours. Will post pictures later.

Someone asked about Russian Olive as bonsai earlier in this thread; I haven't had this one very long, but I think they are very promising bonsai candidates.

This is a Russian Olive (Elaeagnus Angustifolia), that I dug this spring. The first picture is just over two months after collection. The second picture is less than one month after that!





This one is a Quaking Aspen (Populus tremuloides), chewed on by beavers over multiple years.

 

[augustine]

To Thumblessprimate:

Why would you prep and not just dig it out? They are tough (you could probably hook it up to your car and rip it out without harming the plant).

Just curious. Thanks

Augustine

 

[ghulst]

A Russian olive that I collected this fall. Will need a lot of chopping if it greens up this spring. H

 

[thumblessprimate1]

To Thumblessprimate:

Why would you prep and not just dig it out? They are tough (you could probably hook it up to your car and rip it out without harming the plant).

Just curious. Thanks

Augustine

Mostly not collecting it right away, because I'm inexperienced. I won't have any room for any equipment like a car to help me pull it up, but I'm going to train my puny muscles in time I'm usually less than 120lbs.
One reason is I'd like to see how well the chops heal up in a season from an intact root system, and I'd like to see how well the splinters from placing spacers heal. I don't want to make deadwood as an answer for every chop or wound, but rather for when it is really needed.

 

[markyscott]

Here's a collected winged elm. It was dug and chopped in the early 90s. Then grown in a friend's garden for a decade. Massive chop is completely barked over now and I've started over on the branch structure. Still a way to go - it needs some additional major branches that will likely need to be grafted and a few existing branches are at a bad angle and may reed to be replaced. But it has a good trunk and winged elm develops very quickly.



Scott

 

[Geo]

You mean a FABULOUS trunk and taper! What is that in the back right? Looks like the evil dwarf twin.Well,fraternal twin.

 

[markyscott]

You mean a FABULOUS trunk and taper! What is that in the back right? Looks like the evil dwarf twin.Well,fraternal twin.

I think a
I have a sketch somewhere of the plan for the tree.. I'll try and dig it up.

The tree in back is a nursery grown cork bark Chinese elm. I bought it from Miniature Plant Kingdom about 4 years ago or so.

Anyone visited Don Herzog lately? I haven't made it to his place in a while. He was talking about retiring, but kept on getting plant shipments in. Don't know if he pulled the trigger or not.

Scott

 

[markyscott]

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I have a sketch somewhere of the plan for the tree.. I'll try and dig it up.

The tree in back is a nursery grown cork bark Chinese elm. I bought it from Miniature Plant Kingdom about 4 years ago or so.

Anyone visited Don Herzog lately? I haven't made it to his place in a while. He was talking about retiring, but kept on getting plant shipments in. Don't know if he pulled the trigger or not.

Scott

Please forgive my lack of artistic abilities, but I wonder a couple of things:

1) I drew this picture some time ago - anything you would do differently (I think I see at least one issue)?
2) How many grafts do you think I need to achieve the ideal on the right?

- Scott

 

[Vin]

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Please forgive my lack of artistic abilities, but I wonder a couple of things:

1) I drew this picture some time ago - anything you would do differently (I think I see at least one issue)?
2) How many grafts do you think I need to achieve the ideal on the right?

- Scott

I wish I had even some of your artistic ability. Looks great to me!

 

[markyscott]

Here's a picture earlier this fall before cut back.

And some of the cool corking this species will generate on strong growth.


Scott

 

[Ross]

Scott, what lets you ID this tree as winged elm vs. cedar elm for example? Does it flower in the spring? I've never noticed flowers on any of my elms, not sure why.