Pre-Bonsai What is it?

Curious, as to what you feel is exorbitant for either example. I'll tell you they did come from a bonsai specific nursery.

Dave

Exorbitant price would be a price that forces the buyer to sit back and challenge their own budgets to acquire such material. I know people that drooping a couple of hundred dollars for one tree is nothing. For me and my income and responsibilities it is way to much to pay for one tree. So I guess that would be a subjective decision. Some people can afford Rolex watches while I can afford Timex.
 
I don't know if this is what you would call a pre-bonsai unless you count obvious plausibility as a bonsai.

Yep, and that's the only reason since it has the potential for being crafted into something I can recognize as a bonsai.
 
I think we all agree to some degree or another that the term Pre-Bonsai applies to material that has had some work done on it with bonsai culture in mind, being initial root work/reduction to some branch removal. This does not necessarily mean that the definition Pre-Bonsai needs to mean almost ready for prime time but it does not rule that definition out either.

To give you an idea what I mean. In market places where Trident Maples are available and cultivated for bonsai it is possible to obtain this tree in a form that is nothing more than a cut down trunk at first glance. But upon closer observation the tree has been cut down from a larger tree, the top regrown and cut down again numerous times to develop a tapered trunk. These trees usually have a good deal of consistent root prunings. At this point they may not look like a bonsai ready for the final pot but they most certainly are Pre-Bonsai. The configuration of the trunk is something you are not likely to find naturally or from a nursery.

As to the Juniper referenced in the earlier post, It is most likely a pre-bonsai and has most likely had some human intervention done on it prior to this photograph. At this point it is a pre-bonsai but the question is was it a pre-bonsai before this. I have run across a few nursery trees that looked a step away from being a bonsai with a little wire, pruning and placing in a pot if the roots will allow that much reduction. This is rare but it is possible. I have also noticed Yamidori in the fields that were near the same point. Are they pre-bonsai? Yes and no. The key issue is harvesting and survival.
 
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