What Species of Juniper is this

[Vance Wood]

As to asking the guys handing out the fines. That would be good if you could find one when you wanted one. I had one of those intellectual giants tell me that the White Bark Pine was just a different name for the Limber Pine.

 

[wireme]

I actually am not aware of any other N.A. native junipers with needle needle foliage (not counting juvi growth). Somebody must know if there are more?

Nice pics, nice country.

 

[wireme]

Other than communis I mean.

 

[Dan W.]

None that I've heard of either.

 

[crust]

The Communis I have seen in New England, Minnesota, Wyoming and Idaho all seem a bit different foliage-wise and in stature also. My understanding is there are very genetically variable as are Virginiana. Anyways, I think it is Communis.

 

[Vance Wood]

Just to throw a wrench into the collective works there is another Juniper native to North America: Juniperus Horzontalis.

 

[wireme]

Just to throw a wrench into the collective works there is another Juniper native to North America: Juniperus Horzontalis.

Horizontalis is pretty common here, mostly low creepers with not much trunk to speak of but there are exceptions. Nice foliage.

 

[milehigh_7]

Another thing to understand about some of these places like Bryce and especially Mt. Charleston West of Vegas is that they are sort of on Islands and have a fair number of unique species. That's one reason you can't even get a dig permit on Mt. Charleston.

 

[Dan W.]

Cool. Can someone else look at this and tell me if I'm reading it right? I think it says that J. Horizontalis is the same as Communis var. Jackii.
http://www.conifers.org/cu/Juniperus_horizontalis.php

 

[milehigh_7]

Cool. Can someone else look at this and tell me if I'm reading it right? I think it says that J. Horizontalis is the same as Communis var. Jackii.
http://www.conifers.org/cu/Juniperus_horizontalis.php

Apparently yes. What caught my eye was this part:

"Juniperus horizontalis, a prostrate species, hybridizes with the trees J. virginiana and J. scopulorum (Adams 1983; Fassett 1945; Palma-Otal et al. 1983) and is closely related to both. The hybrid between J. horizontalis and J. scopulorum has been named J. × fassettii Boivin" (Adams 1993)"
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So it's totally possible that what Vance saw is some type of hybrid variation.

 

[Dan W.]

I noticed that too. Basically... we'll probably never know for sure.

 

[milehigh_7]

J. horizontalis var 'Vance'