Yardadori

I wouldn't go below the planter.... I think you would ruin it and not get the junipers. Think about it, you have to dig out all the sides of the planter (presumably one at a time) and cut off ALL roots all the way INSIDE of the brick planter making sure that you also get to the center at some point. If you only cut them off outside of the planter you still can't lift the juniper out because the root base will be too wide. That's a long way to go when you're digging under something. Even if you successfully do this it will be very hard to lift the root ball out at all and even harder by yourself. The roots will have grown into the mortar and it will be impossible to lift straight out unless you dig out all 4 sides inside the planter all the way down. And if you can do that you don't really need to go below the planter in the first place...

Also, the homeowner will probably not be pleased if you have to start mortaring things unless you know the exact sand and cement type that were originally used and their original ratio. If you don't know these things the color and consistency will be off and the patch will be obvious and look bad.

If it was me I'd take a sawzall with long demo blades to the rootball on all 4 sides cutting from the base of the planter to the center on a diagonal. Then you can lift out the pyramid rootball and reduce the bottom a bit before potting it. You could also do this with a hand saw but it will take longer. If you go below the planter you will almost surely destroy/damage it and everyone involved may end up more upset than happy.
 
If it was me I'd take a sawzall with long demo blades to the rootball on all 4 sides cutting from the base of the planter to the center on a diagonal. Then you can lift out the pyramid rootball and reduce the bottom a bit before potting it.

Same as post #13 above.

Even if that is the case....how will you cut the roots at the bottom? You will probably have to cut 2 diagonal cuts from the top of the brick wall. One from the left and another from the right forming a "V". Then you can pull the plant out. Whether you get sufficient roots this way is the question.

I prefer the "V" than a "cone" or "pyramid" though. The "V" wedge is easier and you get more roots.
 
Same as post #13 above.

Just offering a reinforcing opinion since OP seems to be moving in another direction. The more feedback provided the better decision he can make. I know you said it first.

I prefer the "V" than a "cone" or "pyramid" though. The "V" wedge is easier and you get more roots.

This is dependent on having a blade that is long enough. With a short blade you will get more roots with a cone.
 
Just offering a reinforcing opinion since OP seems to be moving in another direction. The more feedback provided the better decision he can make. ..

This is dependent on having a blade that is long enough. With a short blade you will get more roots with a cone.
Agreed.

The length of the blade is the same for both...they both need to meet at the center.
 
The length of the blade is the same for both...they both need to meet at the center.

Yeah, you're right, flawed logic. I was thinking that if you do a "cone" you could leave a 4" or so square base at the center to allow for more root collection. Cleaning out the cut material would allow you to make the last horizontal cut. That would be the best use for a short blade, I just hadn't formed my thoughts all the way yet :)
 
Got them knocked out. Easier than I thought it would be. The planters were concrete bases with holes in the bottom. Not much roots on either but I can live with what is there.
 

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Well I was hopeful that I could upload straight from the phone until I saw they got turned sideways. Crap
 
Did you wash off most of the old soil or just potted it as-is?
 
Did you wash off most of the old soil or just potted it as-is?

The outer 1/2"-3/4" of the root ball was exposed. The inner soil was left as is. Both are in the stage of developing berries, with a good bit already on. Going to be a long slow process getting all the "buds" for the berries removed.
 
New Growth

So these two have been in shade under an oak tree since collection. They are showing new growth all over. My question is should I go ahead and move them to an area that receives a couple hours of morning light? I will have to work diligently over the next few years to push the growth back down towards the base as it has become very long and leggy. Ideas?
 
So these two have been in shade under an oak tree since collection. They are showing new growth all over. My question is should I go ahead and move them to an area that receives a couple hours of morning light? I will have to work diligently over the next few years to push the growth back down towards the base as it has become very long and leggy. Ideas?

It is a good sign that they are showing growth already! Anything lower down on the branches, or is all the new growth on top?

If your goal is to get new buds to work with lower on the branches, you need to cut the hard wood. Just pruning the green growth on top will usually just lead to more compact growth, but not much back budding lower on the branch. If you want to stimulate back budding at the base of your branches, cut the hardened off parts of the branch, and do it about as low as you can go without removing all the foliage. *YOU HAVE TO LEAVE SOME GREEN, OR THE BRANCH WILL PROBABLY DIE!*. In fact, major pruning is probably not advisable until you know these guys are super healthy, and I don't know if seeing growth here less than a month after collection is sufficient evidence of that.

With a big, old tree like this there could be a lot of energy stored up and it might show growth early on even if it isn't happy! Especially with Junipers it can take some time to see signs of stress appear. Did you remove any foliage when you dug them up? It looks like you did, but hard to tell from the pics...

I agree with Dario, it has been a couple weeks, you can probably let them see a little more sun part of the day especially if they look nice and healthy, and more sun will stimulate more growth, more back budding... But don't go full sun yet! Probably don't want to fertilize real heavy yet either...
 
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