Let me see if I can straighten out some of your circular reasoning! Lol!!!
It depends!
First....sorry it took me so long to find this..
Second, my respect for you has recently quadratipledoubled....it sucks that there are so many shitty humans out there, that make it so reasonable men like ourselves, Rock, Vance, have to "go through it" to get to a place of open minded learning.
The "the meal or the sandwich" phenomenon. (Identifying the shitty human)
(Can I nutshell this to make sense?)
Before McDonald's Started putting the "sandwich only" price under the Meal Price..folks ordered a Number one..or A Big Mac. Simple.
After 50 years? They put the Sandwich only price under the Meal Price....
The other day Sorceress got pissed when I ordered a Number One and the lady asked if I wanted the meal or the sandwich...
(Because Sorceress default is...if you want the sandwich only...SAY the sandwich...like we have for 50 years!)
She couldn't understand why that question was necessary.
It's because of that ONE shitty human that ruins it for everyone.
The one who got pissed off at the lady because when THEY said they wanted a Number one...THEY meant the sandwich alone...Cuz they didn't figure it out!
But this one person could have been brand new to McDonald's ..and had no default.
So that ONE person isn't even Neccesarily shitty! But everything is still ruined...as there are uneccessary questions being asked for 99% of the customers...
Tiny Confusions...tiny bits of upset....FOR NO FREAKING REASON!
But you see how this phenomenon is much less controllable on the internet.
And how it works so perfectly against us figuring out the ever important..."it depends' "
How about this one of our scenarios...
When I said working with copper over years has helped me wire better....
And I don't remember how it went, but YOUR truth WAS ...that won't help you wire...
But that's where I find the "bad" but "not bad" information.
Cuz while my Truth may not help ALL..
It is truth that some like Just wing it can summon powers of to utilize for confidence in wiring...
So we must remember....
Even Part truth is safe...
Because not having it isn't dangerous.
Where The Straight BS..(which really is entirely just different methods, however shitty, that have different timelines, that result in different aesthetic ends...different art...in that. ..EVERY IS ACCEPTABLE!)
The Straight BS can get cut and stomped instantly...
The problem there ...that one moron that will go take an HVAC class to learn wiring!
He's put there you know he is!
Or that other Moron....
Who hears "cut a branch" and does it before reading the "in 15 years" part ..
He exists too!
The difference between here and Facebook is we are better at weeding out those Morons.
The better we get at knowing these people exist, and the grief their ignorance causes us...the easier it willbe to dodge THAT BS and really hash out the "it depends" so we can friggin advance.
So I invite you to my world of circular reasoning....
An image like that of the Olympic Rings...
We are all connected amd together.
Where parralel , straightened thoughts, go on forever and never intertwine...
For me...the liquid fert...
It goes thru the foliage...
Thru the moss,
Into the roots..
Drips into earth...
And that H20 in there eventually ends up back in my rain barrel.
Cycle.
My Son was in Hotlanta at a Baseball game recently...at that point out cycles were closer...our rings spanned that space, as my son is a cycle within mine.
Figuring out "it depends"....
Owning that these cycles are real and properly aligning where the rings connect...
There is great value to me in this "straightening out" though...
It's like an "express bus" to other cycles of you will...
Every Bit of information is useful...
But not for them morons...
Sorry, but we spoke in the other thread about being a "douche"..."hazing"..
I have to say I'm with that.
Your yard your garden.
Your art especially!
I will not Judge anyone who enjoys even a Mallsai...
I will learn from that.
It's absolutely thoughtless empty advice that is DAMAGING.
And we just don't get that here.
Of course...it is Because the archives here aren't deleted.
It is because people can speak as they wish.
Because so much information is put on the table for debate...the best comes out of it.
It is getting better at this...
"Having a factual debate to come to a better place for all" that we must focus on.
Arguing is a waste of time!
Truth and no truth!
Moron and no moron!
Keep doing what is best for the group!
Sorce