Advanced Nutrients fertilizers

[Paulkellum]

Has anyone used any of the advance nutrients fertilizers. It's a very compartmentalized line to give you isolated results with different product lines to taylor them to you trees needs. Was just wondering if any bonsai folks had tried them.

 

[cmeg1]

You obviously live near a hydro store.I have not seen that brand at the one I frequent.I personally enjoy using the exotic fertilizer blends.

 

[Smoke]

Nope, but I like the label on "Wet Betty" though....

You can buy a jug of Eleanor's VF-11, which I use and get the same thing for about 20% of the price of the over priced hydro stuff.

 

[Brian Underwood]

I doubt many bonsai people have tried most of the "hydro" stuff, unless they grow large amounts of marijuana on the side. Typically these nutrients are quite expensive, and specifically designed for growing pot and the various stages of that particular plant's grow cycle, mostly for high-yield crops and "flowers" ( I DO live in Northern California after all...). I say go for it and see what happens, if you have the cash to spend. I personally stick to the ol' time-release green balls (Apex NPK); http://www.simplot.com/turf_horticulture/apex/products/apex_npk_plus

 

[Poink88]

I agree with Brian...they may work a bit better but at a premium price. Not worth it for me (law of diminishing return). My plants are happy with plain old Miracle Grow.

 

[Paulkellum]

I doubt many bonsai people have tried most of the "hydro" stuff, unless they grow large amounts of marijuana on the side. Typically these nutrients are quite expensive, and specifically designed for growing pot and the various stages of that particular plant's grow cycle, mostly for high-yield crops and "flowers" ( I DO live in Northern California after all...). I say go for it and see what happens, if you have the cash to spend. I personally stick to the ol' time-release green balls (Apex NPK); http://www.simplot.com/turf_horticulture/apex/products/apex_npk_plus

Yes they where designed to each do different things. And they are cheap when you consider most are applied at 1.1 or 2ml per liter. I am going for it Kinda cuz I bought it already. I figured that trees worth thousands deserve the best. BTW There is money in the weed business and so these are the children of some double PhDs folks who are breaking fertalizer into a lot parts so you can get results not just growth. Non these have hardly any nitrogen. Ones I got are to growing roots, support roots, cell formation, enzymes, fungi, beneficial bacteria. I will use fish and seaweed for a nitrogen sourest when needed

 

[markyscott]

Curious - I'm surprised to hear you folks characterize the hydroponic stuff as premium and overpriced. I use this and find it quite economical. Together, both 1 gallon bottles cost $45. As you can see, the recommended dilution is 3/4 teaspoon per gallon (I use 1/2 teaspoon per gallon). There are 768 teaspoons in each gallon bottle, yielding 1024 gallons at the recommended dilution rate. Cost is just under 4.5 cents per gallon.

By way of comparison, consider fish emulsion. I pay about $13 for a 1 gallon bottle of Alaska. Recommended dilution is 4 tablespoons per gallon. There are 256 tablespoons in a gallon, yielding 64 gallons. That's 20 cents per gallon - roughly 4 times the cost of the hydroponic stuff. Not sure about miracle gro all purpose plant food (I don't have any on the shelf to check the numbers) but I'd guess it stacks up pretty well. It's certainly way cheaper than the single use things you screw on to their proprietary hose-end sprayer.

Scott

 

[Poink88]

Scott,

I buy the 12.5 pound water soluble Miracle-Gro all purpose (24-8-16). Mix is 1 tablespoon for every gallon of water. Not sure how many tablespoon is there per pound but a lot. The pack costs me around $16 from Costco.

 

[sikadelic]

Scott,

I buy the 12.5 pound water soluble Miracle-Gro all purpose (24-8-16). Mix is 1 tablespoon for every gallon of water. Not sure how many tablespoon is there per pound but a lot. The pack costs me around $16 from Costco.

Thats exactly what I use in addition to osmocote.

 

[kirk@localbonsai.com]

I've always been tempted by these hydrotonics - but I'll just keep making compost for free : )