An opinion poll, just for fun....
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Mojosan
Mame
Mojosan
Mame
emk
Mame
Since you asked...
While I like both of your images better than Mojosan's overall, those individual trees did bring to light a nagging issue with your original tree. While it's a visually appealing bonsai, it really doesn't look like a "tree". The extraneous deadwood that you removed in the virt makes me think that on some level you recognize that the original looks more like an interesting deadwood project than a real tree you might encounter in nature.
<understatement>Now I'm no expert</understatement> but I'm sure there are others here who could point out excellent examples of real-world trees that have a lot of surrounding deadwood that's not part of the trunk/branch structure of the main tree that might be composed in a similar manner to what you have here, but I think we'd find that it looks quite different than the deadwood on your tree. I would guess that it would mainly be an issue of scale.
So, in the end, I think the original image with some serious refinement of the deadwood could make a better overall composition, but as it stands now, the second image has a lot of potential on it's own and looks far more tree-like than the other.
While I like both of your images better than Mojosan's overall, those individual trees did bring to light a nagging issue with your original tree. While it's a visually appealing bonsai, it really doesn't look like a "tree". The extraneous deadwood that you removed in the virt makes me think that on some level you recognize that the original looks more like an interesting deadwood project than a real tree you might encounter in nature.
<understatement>Now I'm no expert</understatement> but I'm sure there are others here who could point out excellent examples of real-world trees that have a lot of surrounding deadwood that's not part of the trunk/branch structure of the main tree that might be composed in a similar manner to what you have here, but I think we'd find that it looks quite different than the deadwood on your tree. I would guess that it would mainly be an issue of scale.
So, in the end, I think the original image with some serious refinement of the deadwood could make a better overall composition, but as it stands now, the second image has a lot of potential on it's own and looks far more tree-like than the other.
Bonsai Nut
Nuttier than your average Nut
OMG don't remove the deadwood! Or else, if you feel you have to, sell this tree to me! 
Here is what I think when I look at the tree. The virt is extremely heavy-handed and there are many things wrong with it (too much foilage, not enough ability to show foilage layering in virtual, etc) but it will hopefully show you an option to consider. Oh and ALWAYS display this tree against a dark background so the deadwood pops. Planting angle is important too - make sure that the jin on the left and the jin on the right are not the same height. I don't think it is bad right now, but if you are going to tilt it a little, make sure you go left and not right.
Recommended shift in planting angle:
Here is what I think when I look at the tree. The virt is extremely heavy-handed and there are many things wrong with it (too much foilage, not enough ability to show foilage layering in virtual, etc) but it will hopefully show you an option to consider. Oh and ALWAYS display this tree against a dark background so the deadwood pops. Planting angle is important too - make sure that the jin on the left and the jin on the right are not the same height. I don't think it is bad right now, but if you are going to tilt it a little, make sure you go left and not right.
Recommended shift in planting angle:
davetree
Omono
Please don't separate, leave the deadwood alone except to refine it, the tree just needs to be styled. It would be a crime to cut this in two.
'morons' humble opinion
This is a great example of plant that had a pile of all the right ingredients. Beautiful deadwood, twisting vein of life, nice tight green foliage but......it is missing the main design element, form. No matter what way you turn it, no matter how many pieces you chop it into, it will not have the traditional form we look for in bonsai.
This is a great example of plant that had a pile of all the right ingredients. Beautiful deadwood, twisting vein of life, nice tight green foliage but......it is missing the main design element, form. No matter what way you turn it, no matter how many pieces you chop it into, it will not have the traditional form we look for in bonsai.
Holy smoke, I didn't know that! To me it's a interesting piece of dead wood with helmets on top to force you into thinking tree. It just doesn't have the mojo in picture. Maybe in person, it might be drop dead gorgeous. Keep looking Harry but let us know if you are going to sell the koi to buy it next time.
Walter Pall
Masterpiece
Walter Pall
Masterpiece
Bill S
Masterpiece
Definately leave it as the original, as far as too much dead wood, no way, if you want to see these hike to the tree line on some higher mts., or wind blown barrens, full of life for parts of the year, struggling against the elements in the rest.
timgardnerapp
Seed
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Please listen to JasonG and DaveTree
Please do not seperate them!!!
Please do not seperate them!!!
pauldogx
Mame
You sure you didn't get that from Dr. Seuss???
