Comparing size with Clicio

[Potawatomi13]

This tree has no thorns.
I will happily send seeds - free - when the virus is over.
Seeds are normally - April / May
Anthony

Bark also flakes
Surface roots are also odd,
Cold tolerance ?

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trunk

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This tree got THORNS! (Ceiba erianthos also got butt) Credit: Very interesting article from Bonsai Empire

Back of the tree.

 

[leatherback]

This tree got THORNS!

Is it a BRT or an Ironwood?

 

[Clicio]

Is it a BRT or an Ironwood?

It's a Paineira, very common on the streets of Sao Paulo. The flowers are beautiful and big, but as a bonsai it never blooms.
Ceiba Erianthos.
I have never seen a good bonsai out of it except for this one from the picture. A Venezuelan bonsaist, right?
@leatherback I know a guy selling one here in SP for less than €50.
Should I reserve it for you? It's HUGE.

 

[leatherback]

Should I reserve it for you?

Not aiming at divorce yet.

Unless you mean a huge BRT?

 

[leatherback]

@Clicio, ruler time I would say? Summer is about to start here. So expecting bulking up to soon start too.

 

[Clicio]

@Clicio, ruler time I would say? Summer is about to start here. So expecting bulking up to soon start too.

Hummm...
Always in winter here... Not fair!
hehehe, joking, I'll grab a picture as soon as I can and post here.
In fact they have had a weaker growth this season due to the rainy summer and not so high temperatures throughout the year so far.
As for the other one, the thornless, I have got one that is going to flower very soon, after being 5 months leafless. I thought it was dead for good, but now it is sprouting at the wrong time, it's the beginning of the winter.
SURELY a slow grower the thornless cultivar. But yours is way healthier than mine.
Below the pictures from 3 days in a row. Look at those flower buds!

Three days ago:



Two days ago:



This morning:

 

[Clicio]

Better focus:

 

[Carol 83]

I have got one that is going to flower very soon, after being 5 months leafless

I had that happen to me last year. Stupid tree lost it's leaves in the winter and sat like the dead, even once it was outside. Then it just decided to grow and flower.

 

[Clicio]

@Clicio, ruler time I would say? Summer is about to start here. So expecting bulking up to soon start too.

Here we go.
Same age as yours, unhappy with the temperature - 12°C - and rainy, but...
2cm base, almost 1 inch.
I guess it is root bound again. In the Spring it goes to a large shallow pot to fatten up. Or if I manage do move to a new house, to the ground, let's see.

 

[Mapleminx]

It’s so refreshing to see the men with the rulers out “comparing who is biggest” and the subject be some very beautiful trees!

 

[Carol 83]

It’s so refreshing to see the men with the rulers out “comparing who is biggest” and the subject be some very beautiful trees!

Yes, it's quite a relief!

 

[Clicio]

It’s so refreshing to see the men with the rulers out “comparing who is biggest” and the subject be some very beautiful trees!

Yes.
Other types of comparisons don't make sense to me. At all.

 

[leatherback]

2cm base, almost 1 inch.

Clearly, yours is thicker due to the heat. I think the girth swells more when it is hot. Mine are noticably slower now.
Maybe I should consider a bigger pot for the biggest one, and let that one just run for the summer, and cut back just before moving indoors in 3 months.

 

[Clicio]

Clearly, yours is thicker due to the heat. I think the girth swells more when it is hot. Mine are noticably slower now.
Maybe I should consider a bigger pot for the biggest one, and let that one just run for the summer, and cut back just before moving indoors in 3 months.

Yes, it makes sense.
I am quite sure mine will double this size if it goes to the ground, or even to a large grow box.
One of the issues here is they get rootbound very fast, and it stalls the growth somehow.
I am glad yours is doing so well in such a harsh climate for tropicals. Congrats!

 

[leatherback]

Guess I will have to trim and wire this one a little. Before it moves from the unheatd greenhouse to the heated windowsill!

 

[leatherback]

ok.. time to move the tropicals indoors.. Wired a few sacrifice branches to propagate next summer.

 

[leatherback]

@Clicio you asked for it!

 

[Clicio]

@Clicio you asked for it!

THANK YOU!
I am amazed how you manage to grow tropicals in this lousy weather of yours.
Will watch right now!

 

[Clicio]

@Clicio you asked for it!

Well Mr @leatherback , I have left a comment right there but I will reproduce it here below.

"Jelle, congratulations, very well done.
First comment is... Your thornless one is doing much better than mine. Mine was an air layer from a big one (and that´s how they propagate here - not from cuttings) and the mother tree is also difficult to keep. A loot of dieback and coarse growth..
Next, I do wire them! In fact I have a sapling from the same batch as yours that is fully wired right now. The secret is wiring the young branches and taking the wire off some three to five weeks later, as they will cut and mark the trunk quite badly. In fact, now I prefer the clip and grow method with them, to keep the nice bark unscratched.
Then, about pruning. I usually leave a small stub because they do die back very often, and then clean the stubs on my next pruning session. As you´ve said, they are perfect to be conducted only by scissors.
Thanks a lot for such nice videos and I hope you manage to propagate them. As you know, they are very, very easy to grow from seeds, and that´s my preference here in the tropics.
Please keep doing this great work!"

 

[leatherback]

As you know, they are very, very easy to grow from seeds,

I know. I do not have easy access to seed though. And I find it is a hard to get species in this part of the world, yet very much sought after! Insane!!

Thank you for the feedback. It helps me understand the specie sbetter!