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So it only stuck on some parts...
I stupidly removed the ziptie to early.
What should i do? Reharm the cambium and push it in our start over with another sapling?

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It looks like it might be necrotic, but YES, put the zip tie back.

If there is indeed some dead tissue where the bark looks black in the pic, the cambium should regrow over the next season or two anyway. It could be a long wait, but there is little choice, IMHO, as this would still be the fastest way to recover.
 

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last try or i will get someone better than me to do it.

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Best of luck! im attempting several grafts in the coming weeks. Would you perhaps had better success using a more pliable rooted cutting?
Do you have any concerns when using large approach graft that the transition from trunk to nebari will look irregular compared to the rest? would a thread root graft be more appropriate?
 

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Best of luck! im attempting several grafts in the coming weeks. Would you perhaps had better success using a more pliable rooted cutting?
Do you have any concerns when using large approach graft that the transition from trunk to nebari will look irregular compared to the rest? would a thread root graft be more appropriate?
I basically have no idea of what i am doing
 

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last try or i will get someone better than me to do it.

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Using a large graft here doesn't worry me.
My concern with not using a retaining material more flexible is that the maple will grow deformed at that spot as it thickens. Personally, I'd have either used two tacks on either side or tin one screw down the center that would be left on.
 

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One more repot... it has a thick root I didn't know if I should've cut.


I left the graft to thicken the roots.


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It might go in that pot in a couple of year.

It went back into the same wooden box
 

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Great success!

I would remove the graft though, to ensure it really connects to the main tree and does not remain dedicated to the whip? Anybody any thoughts?
 

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Great success!

I would remove the graft though, to ensure it really connects to the main tree and does not remain dedicated to the whip? Anybody any thoughts?
I saw it once on a m5 thread and dav4's one... ( I think)

And to get roots comparable to the others, I had to let the graft run. I will thin the graft section a bit.
 

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I saw it once on a m5 thread and dav4's one... ( I think)

And to get roots comparable to the others, I had to let the graft run. I will thin the graft section a bit.
Hey.. I would not dare go against M5!
 

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I would considered keeping the graft. It could work in the future as a twin trunk, perfect spot to arise from the main trunk. If possible, I would get the wire off the trunk down low soon. It would be a a bad place to have a wire scar.
 

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The graft is not a deshojo... so not quite probable to work.
I would considered keeping the graft. It could work in the future as a twin trunk, perfect spot to arise from the main trunk. If possible, I would get the wire off the trunk down low soon. It would be a a bad place to have a wire scar.
 

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One more repot... it has a thick root I didn't know if I should've cut.


I left the graft to thicken the roots.


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It might go in that pot in a couple of year.

It went back into the same wooden box

Nice feeder roots buddy, looks like it has a solid base of roots which should make EVERYTHING easier..
I think I and perhaps other people, underestimate how much of a role roots play in everything.. sounds silly to say out look.
If you've got the roots right, I think the rest of the tree is a lot easier to deal with.
 

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Nice feeder roots buddy, looks like it has a solid base of roots which should make EVERYTHING easier..
I think I and perhaps other people, underestimate how much of a role roots play in everything.. sounds silly to say out look.
If you've got the roots right, I think the rest of the tree is a lot easier to deal with.
Yeah, for our hot weather roots are essential!
I think its looking better and better.
I usually use Brian's shindeshojo as guide, and I think my roots look similar!

(Bummer that the first pictures dissapeared even though I uploaded them as attachments.
 

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Ask @Bonsai Nut if attachments on the forum, are purged after X amount of time..
Id be curious to know too.
 

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Ask @Bonsai Nut if attachments on the forum, are purged after X amount of time..
Id be curious to know too.

No they are not purged or deleted. However in January, 2015, we upgraded all the site software to our current platform. At that time, I went through a process to import images from the old database to the new database. It was not particularly effective, and many old images were not transferred by the import utility.

I still have the old images, but they are buried in the old database archives, and are difficult to retrieve.

However going forward, all images are stored in a completely different (and improved) fashion. One of the reasons why I upgraded to this new platform was the vastly improved structure.
 
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