CasAH
Chumono
Glad it seems to be doing well.
Pimpin' and Shimpin'
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chicago1980
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Fine indeed! The foliage looks fantastic also!
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Thanks.
I don't think you'll have to HBR anything.
You`LL Probly never have to reduce any of your current root masses by this % either.
Summer summer summertime!
Sorce
chicago1980
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I didn't have to much root play this year. Here is a photo of some work early spring 2017. I reduced about 30-40% , but still has more reduction in it's future.
That is about the only roots I worked this year.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
The runners won't fit in the frame!
Found roots under the Moss today!
Thanks Vance!
Thanks BVF!
Sorce
chicago1980
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Looking good!
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Tiny roots tiny roots push em out tiny roots!
This whole summer repotting thing is God Damn genious!
Sorce
This whole summer repotting thing is God Damn genious!
Sorce
LanceMac10
Imperial Masterpiece
Report back next spring. Then you'll know if it's (genius), or not.
LanceMac10
Imperial Masterpiece
Ever get around to cleaning it up a bit? Shoots hanging down, selective shoot pruning....anything?
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Come come now. How far away do you really expect me to stray from NOT doing what they say?
You know yourself better than that!
Eh....I thought it was visible in the pics....maybe a little.
I took some cuttings from an unusable branch that was shading out useable stuff....looking good for going to root!
And I cut the tip off of the second keeper branch up ....
As it was a bit bigger than my first.
The yellowing has stopped, amd just today I found a once yellow branch greening up again.
No problems no cutty!
As soon as you get that part down they want you to cut again!
Crazy! Lol!
Spring? Shiiiit !
I brought this home from almost a full winter without frozen roots, in the climate controlled THG greenhouse.
Then it went out for a friggin miserable freezing end of winter...
It wasn't ready for it then, and it shined thru.
Going sleepy and acclimating outside this year has me feeling right good!
Sorce
jriddell88
Omono
Source stepping up the game where'd this one come from I haven't read the whole thread nice dudeCome come now. How far away do you really expect me to stray from NOT doing what they say?
You know yourself better than that!
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Eh....I thought it was visible in the pics....maybe a little.
I took some cuttings from an unusable branch that was shading out useable stuff....looking good for going to root!
And I cut the tip off of the second keeper branch up ....
As it was a bit bigger than my first.
The yellowing has stopped, amd just today I found a once yellow branch greening up again.
No problems no cutty!
As soon as you get that part down they want you to cut again!
Crazy! Lol!
Spring? Shiiiit !
I brought this home from almost a full winter without frozen roots, in the climate controlled THG greenhouse.
Then it went out for a friggin miserable freezing end of winter...
It wasn't ready for it then, and it shined thru.
Going sleepy and acclimating outside this year has me feeling right good!
Sorce
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I guess the only proper thing to do is follow up with some observations in thanks for that excellent post!
These are branches one and two. The left one was cut back to freeze it, you see it is a bit to big already.
Here is the cut on the first branch which froze it.
Likely made last year at THG.
Which resulted in pretty useable branching. That one right branch went near full juvi! The rest faired well.
Here is the second branch which I cut recently.
Took off about as much length as the one below it has.
Not to useable branching yet on purpose, but to off the tip, and see what happens.
Which seems to have been a good move!
Thanks BVF! I can Probly go back to proper nexts 2018 and remain adult foliage!
The cut tip!
I studied where this juvenile foliage came from in the Spring, but not as in depth as now.
Turns out KARMA IS GOOD, Cuz most of the juvenile foliage is on these heavier cuts of stuff I'm cutting off anyway!
(Does either foliage type root better?)
The 2 apexual cuts resulted in a little juvi, some of which has fallen off already.
Hmmmm...I'd swear this was planned!
If it was, I'm picking up right where they left off Cuz the plan I have for this seems to be right in line with all that is good about this tree!
Looking at this in this perspective has already helped me immensely Brian!
I hope this helps others too!
I now will let one of those 2 apexes run safely away to keep it's health, keep the trunk bulking, and able to take future shari work. Kathy Shaner style shari work!
Maybe deal with those unnecessary back trunks one year at a time.
Though it seems lopping them fully won't cause juvi anywhere else as they are already independent it seems.
Sorce
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
When you properly prune pines and junipers, the resulting growth is easier to "manage". You'll find that to be the case here because Itoigawa grows in tufts which alternate along a central leader. With pines, you leave two candles at the 9:00 and 3:00 positions, which you wire outward. If you know how trees respond to pruning, you can do it in a way that produces the growth you want for the next step.
BTW, I think you have way too much going on at the first "whorl" shown in that top image in post 74. Here is how I handled my itoigawa, and you have the bones to do the same with yours:
1 becomes the first primary branch.
Move left branch up and start training shoots to become primary branches.
2 becomes the 2nd right branch.
Build the apex from the branch above.
Jin all but #1 of the right cluster of branches.
Remove the first left branch entirely to show off the trunk wiggle.
Add a strike of Shari up the trunk.
Jin everything that remains above the apex.
BTW, I think you have way too much going on at the first "whorl" shown in that top image in post 74. Here is how I handled my itoigawa, and you have the bones to do the same with yours:
1 becomes the first primary branch.
Move left branch up and start training shoots to become primary branches.
2 becomes the 2nd right branch.
Build the apex from the branch above.
Jin all but #1 of the right cluster of branches.
Remove the first left branch entirely to show off the trunk wiggle.
Add a strike of Shari up the trunk.
Jin everything that remains above the apex.
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LanceMac10
Imperial Masterpiece
And the bill is in the mail!!! Experience just got stamped on your forehead @sorce ,don't fuck up!!! Know how much you coulda' got charged for this guidance? More than an ounce worth, tell ya' that!!!
Nice!!
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
I had to go look at this to really understand where that left branch was going....
Now it makes sense.
That whole whorl is slated for deletion.
Minus thinking about changing that first right branch.
It starts further back than it seems...it's quite a bit thicker.
Thinking today about losing this root eventually...
Think that's too low to start that shari?
I'd like to join them other old holes too.
Never had to seriously consider designing a shari!
Reckon I'll grab one of the thousand chalks laying around the yard and draw up some stuff to look at till the next rain!
Seeing it in a rectangle too!
That back root is a little high, but I like how it runs right in line with the one in front of it.
This is great @Brian Van Fleet thanks!
Sorce
Now it makes sense.
That whole whorl is slated for deletion.
Minus thinking about changing that first right branch.
It starts further back than it seems...it's quite a bit thicker.
Thinking today about losing this root eventually...
Think that's too low to start that shari?
I'd like to join them other old holes too.
Never had to seriously consider designing a shari!
Reckon I'll grab one of the thousand chalks laying around the yard and draw up some stuff to look at till the next rain!
Seeing it in a rectangle too!
That back root is a little high, but I like how it runs right in line with the one in front of it.
This is great @Brian Van Fleet thanks!
Sorce
Brian Van Fleet
Pretty Fly for a Bonsai Guy
That photo is a blast from the past. I don't own a single thing in it anymore; the tree, pot, yard, house!
Yes, that root has to go at some point.
Yes, practice your Shari lines with chalk. When you get one you like, use a sharpie. You can start it now.
Remember, you can dislocate branches carefully from the trunk and easily move them...adding character too; in Spring.
Yes, that root has to go at some point.
Yes, practice your Shari lines with chalk. When you get one you like, use a sharpie. You can start it now.
Remember, you can dislocate branches carefully from the trunk and easily move them...adding character too; in Spring.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Sat down for a little moss removing maintenance.
Since one of these has been chilling under my slabbed blue rug it hasn't had any return ants or other pests.
My gaurdian.
Sorce
Since one of these has been chilling under my slabbed blue rug it hasn't had any return ants or other pests.
My gaurdian.
Sorce
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
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