I do believe the tree is larger that we are thinking due to lack of scale.
This thing could easily be sold in Europe for 500 to 750 possibly up to 1000. Althought Japanese Black Pines are NOT popular here. Most folks don't own one and don't want one anyway contrary to America. But Kotobuki they would take. Don't forget 'Kotobuki' is a dwarf variety. A regular JBP would have needles which are five times longer.
To me ilt looks like good material and I would prefer it any time over the other pine with the long roots which was discussed recently.
I would not want it for myself but it could be sold easily.
Is the available stock better or easier to purchase in America?
And why the large difference in the amounts?
Irene
Irene, by and lrege we have way more good to very good stock besides average. And we have way more folks who care and are willing to pay more for better stock. Crap costs the same or less here and good stuff costs more.
Another factor in the difference is that the US$ isn't worth too much anymore. It has almost halved in the past years vs. the euro. This means that four years ago I would have told you that the tree costs US$ 250 to 350 and possibly 500 in Europe.
One also has to consider that it is illegal to import any black pine into Europe as it is to import into America. So it is the same situation on both sides. Only that there are lots of leaks here and one still can find imported black pines.
Another factor in the difference is that the US$ isn't worth too much anymore. It has almost halved in the past years vs. the euro. This means that four years ago I would have told you that the tree costs US$ 250 to 350 and possibly 500 in Europe.
To me it looks like good material and I would prefer it any time over the other pine with the long roots which was discussed recently.
Hmmmm, "right out of a nursery pot".
Are you sure about this bNut?
$150 pine that is 20x nicer.
Your statement probably rings some truth in it Dwight. However, some trees are minimally inflated due to the extra labor required to package them, ship them, and deal with the ever on going nightmare that we call the postal/shipping system. These are costs that a dealer wouldn't have if you walked through the door and snatched the tree up. When you see statements that say we only charge actual shipping costs, you know that no one works for free. Its built into the tree cost. When we sell a tree for X amount. We expose that the crating and handling costs that are built into the tree. This practice for the most part answers questions like yours. It is a practice that should be adopted by dealers in my opinion. This will give a better perspective if you are actually getting a good deal or there trolling for a sucker as you suggested.Are all prices somehow inflated when they hit " netland ". I almost feel that many dealers are posting " sucker " prices in the belief ( probably true ) that most people who buy on the web actually have no idea what they are supposed to be paying.
When you see statements that say we only charge actual shipping costs, you know that no one works for free. Its built into the tree cost. When we sell a tree for X amount. We expose that the crating and handling costs that are built into the tree. This practice for the most part answers questions like yours. It is a practice that should be adopted by dealers in my opinion. This will give a better perspective if you are actually getting a good deal or there trolling for a sucker as you suggested.
I don't ( or rarely) ship trees.