…And We Thought It Was All About The Trees

I guess the bottom line is what ever you like or floats your boat. The down side is: Not everyone is going to like what you have done and in this day and age you are likely to have your tree judged by your display. When you step outside the box you have to be ready to have the crabs try to pull you back in.
 
That witch tree is cool.

The witch tree that needed a slab is better!

Do I really need that weird stand to tell me it is a witch tree? Stuff like this always feels to me like an artist is bashing you over the head with a theme... "HEY! If you didn't think it looked like a witch tree BEFORE, NOW it REALLY LOOKS LIKE A WITCH TREE!" They took something figurative and interesting... and made it literal and kitsch.

Here. I perfected it:

RR.jpg
 
Last edited:
Do I really need that weird stand to tell me it is a witch tree? Stuff like this always feels to me like an artist is bashing you over the head with a theme... "HEY! If you didn't think it looked like a witch tree BEFORE, NOW it REALLY LOOKS LIKE A WITCH TREE!" They took something figurative and interesting... and made it literal and kitsch.
How about this one? It does look like a tree we could find in nature.

Ice Tree.jpg
 
How about this one? It does look like a tree we could find in nature.

Does he work for the San Bernadino water district? He obviously has a broken pipe issue...

Picture-001.jpg

Call me crazy, but I don't think taking art, and then spraying it with water, makes it more beautiful or interesting. I also don't think it takes any skill or "creativity" however you want to define the term.
 
They would never sell as paintings unless they had a big name attached but they are still a fun look mostly. One I hate but I'll not say which it is.

I love this though:
rr-jpg.92435
 
How about this one? It does look like a tree we could find in nature.

View attachment 92469
The question of what is or is not art will never be settled. Believe me, I've run the gauntlet in the art world. I have drawings that payed the bills for a while that were sloppy messes in my mind. Yet some of my best are collecting dust.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Vin
witch tree?

I have to clear that up.

The Witch tree that needs a slab......
That is Crusts. The cooler one.
Witch Tree needs slab.JPG
http://www.bonsainut.com/threads/witch-tree-needs-a-slab-so-i-make-one.21675/

Now.....for all.

Here is why Crust does this successfully.

He knew his witch needed a slab.
Not a broom. You must allow for "visions". He allows.

His Larch, with the vaccuum....
The tree does not represent a Maid. Which would not allow for vision. It would be silly like the broom is for that tree.

The vaccuum, that works because of the artistic lines....the thought....the symbolism without symbolizing.

While these little broom props and such are cute, and correct, likeable.
They go against traditional bonsai 's request to "envision" what is not there.
That "envisioning" makes a successful bonsai.
That's why these fail as "bonsai" to us.

The things Crust adds, the things Nick Lenz adds, they do not disallow for a vision. They add something to a composition without changing, or labeling the composition, they don't disallow for a "vision".
That's why they are generally more accepted as bonsai.

Robert Stevens' displays......
They are Art Galleries Using Bonsai.

Not A bonsai show with additives.

When we understand what these "categories " are, we will better understand why opinions differ.

For the record, just knowing how Crust makes this work, isn't enough to pull it off ourselves.....so don't waste your time!

Sorce
 
Does he work for the San Bernadino water district? He obviously has a broken pipe issue...

View attachment 92472

Call me crazy, but I don't think taking art, and then spraying it with water, makes it more beautiful or interesting. I also don't think it takes any skill or "creativity" however you want to define the term.
I have to clear that up.

The Witch tree that needs a slab......
That is Crusts. The cooler one.
View attachment 92480
http://www.bonsainut.com/threads/witch-tree-needs-a-slab-so-i-make-one.21675/

Now.....for all.

Here is why Crust does this successfully.

He knew his witch needed a slab.
Not a broom. You must allow for "visions". He allows.

His Larch, with the vaccuum....
The tree does not represent a Maid. Which would not allow for vision. It would be silly like the broom is for that tree.

The vaccuum, that works because of the artistic lines....the thought....the symbolism without symbolizing.

While these little broom props and such are cute, and correct, likeable.
They go against traditional bonsai 's request to "envision" what is not there.
That "envisioning" makes a successful bonsai.
That's why these fail as "bonsai" to us.

The things Crust adds, the things Nick Lenz adds, they do not disallow for a vision. They add something to a composition without changing, or labeling the composition, they don't disallow for a "vision".
That's why they are generally more accepted as bonsai.

Robert Stevens' displays......
They are Art Galleries Using Bonsai.

Not A bonsai show with additives.

When we understand what these "categories " are, we will better understand why opinions differ.

For the record, just knowing how Crust makes this work, isn't enough to pull it off ourselves.....so don't waste your time!

Sorce
SHIT! I actually understand what you wrote and it makes sense :rolleyes:
 
Does he work for the San Bernadino water district? He obviously has a broken pipe issue...

View attachment 92472

Call me crazy, but I don't think taking art, and then spraying it with water, makes it more beautiful or interesting. I also don't think it takes any skill or "creativity" however you want to define the term.
Around hear you'd be shot for letting water waste like that
 
Around hear you'd be shot for letting water waste like that

Not sure what was going on. I was up there collecting California junipers on a cold morning. Suddenly in the middle of nowhere I saw a fine mist shooting into the air. This was in an area they were clearing for development, so a lot of empty lots, and a lot of California junipers were getting bulldozed. This was high desert, so the last thing you expect to see is water...

Picture-002.jpg
 
I realize people need places to live but ripping everything out like that just seems wrong.

I hope that someone at least makes some firewood out of that.

Any chance of root cuttings?
 
Back
Top Bottom