A couple of new one's from Don Blackmond, last one's for the year.

coh said:
"Poor material" is really only poor if you don't learn something from it. Lowes/Home Depot stock could be invaluable if used the right way. On the other hand, even higher quality material (like the trees in this thread) could turn out to be "poor material" if the owner cant/won't/doesn't learn from them..
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I agree.

The usual BNut advice goes something like, 'don't waste your time on that crap - you need to get good material'.
abqjoe complied.
 
0soyoung said:
I agree.

The usual BNut advice goes something like, 'don't waste your time on that crap - you need to get good material'.
abqjoe complied.
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Yeah, but the stuff he bought is like trying to learn how to drive... In a Ferrari. Something or somebody is gonna get hurt!
 
quietobserver said:
And you're a fucking douche bag sorce...

(Just kidding of course, couldn't help myself...i think all the meth reading on the other thread has gone to my head)
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Gonna be a good ass laughing day!

Thanks for that!

Sorce
 
0soyoung said:
@abqjoe, I am afraid that you are going to be reprimanded by @Adair M for your wire loops being too short/close together. :(
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Actually I think that's already happened:) On the bright side though, I've since then done a lot more studying on proper wiring and the next tree I wire will be better! But, I don't want to further disturb this one anymore this year. The purpose of the pics is to display the new growth, not the wiring. The wiring is ugly but everything is going in the right direction so it will suffice until Spring.
 
At least you know you will have many choices about where you can cut back branching to next spring. Keep learning, that's what we all do if we want to progress.
 
JudyB said:
At least you know you will have many choices about where you can cut back branching to next spring. Keep learning, that's what we all do if we want to progress.
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Right now I like where the existing branches are and it's back budding everywhere. It will be more of a decision as to which of the new growth I want to keep.
 
Well, the best time to do a cut back is just when the leaves have started to turn brown after the fall colors fade.

That way, in spring, all the energy will be directed at be remaining buds.
 
abqjoe said:
Right now I like where the existing branches are and it's back budding everywhere. It will be more of a decision as to which of the new growth I want to keep.
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Actually...

Most of the existing branches have little taper. It looks like the original branches were grown out as long whips, probably wired into place, and then side branches were grown.

Unfortunately, that method produces primary branches with long straight sections with little taper.

The way to create branches with taper is to let them grow out, wire them while they are young and soft (thus easily shaped into little curves), let them grow out more, then cut back, hard. Then repeat. Over and over. It takes a long time to "build" a good deciduous tree.

So...

Joe is getting lots of new buds on the old limbs. That's great! It gives him lots of choices to cut back some of the old, straight, taperless branches and regrow them with new branches that can be developed with taper and movement.
 
Good thing about these is you can go to the store for a six pack, and by the time you get back, they have grown an inch and put buds out where you least expect it!
Go away for a weekend and you might not recognize it!!:eek:
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abqjoe said:
Right now I like where the existing branches are and it's back budding everywhere. It will be more of a decision as to which of the new growth I want to keep.
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It's not about where the existing branches are. It's about creating branch taper and ramification to build a better tree. Keep looking at photos of winter deciduous bonsai. Good ones that is... You'll see it if you look at enough of them. If you have a chance to visit a winter silhouette show, that's the best thing you could do.
 
I'm calling this tree a 3 year project because I think at the 3 year mark it will be where I want it to be. Although some have stated in this thread that this tree is nothing that great and that it's not something they would dream of having I guarantee you that if those voices saw it in person they would change their tune pretty quick! Pics really don't do this tree justice and in person it is much different... Anyway here's a few more after 2 weeks of a hard cutback/prune.











My dog Muchacho for some kind of size reference:)

 
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