sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Best deal with all those branches creating those bulges lest you have to make the cut to the lowest branch and take the really long term approach!
That club definitely has to go.
This needs vigilant bud rubbing.
Sorce
Coral Bark Maple
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Best deal with all those branches creating those bulges lest you have to make the cut to the lowest branch and take the really long term approach!
That club definitely has to go.
This needs vigilant bud rubbing.
Sorce
this tree has lots of potential. its nebari immediately reminded me of the tree in the first attached photo
I would put this tree in a grow box, and develop the nebari on the full circumference, letting some of the grafted scions grow fairly large to fill in the gaps in the nebari. this will create wounds in the nebari as in the 2nd photo, but they will heal. i'd be careful not to let these new 'trunks' shade-out your sango kaku
I like the last photo attached here as a possible front. i'd develop the new leader, first branch on the right, second branch on the left
a lot of very promising long term potential! when you win the beauty contest, dedicate your award to @Woocash
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Excuse me sir but could you not come up with a better and more appropriate name than "Mach6"? As you well know our Mach5 is a well known, well liked, and prominent member here. Why are you wanting to ride on his shirt tails if I may ask?
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
a V cut may help here to reduce some bulk, i know most would wince at the thought of doing this to a maple though
taking a saw and dremel to a maple is forbidden in most parts of the world, but not in my garden...
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or broom. these type of approaches arent for everyone though....
i would also likely take a pair of knob cutters to the nebari and balance it out, resulting in a nice, even flare, again not for everyone.
taking a saw and dremel to a maple is forbidden in most parts of the world, but not in my garden...
Acer Katsura project#1
From a nursery tree. again this one picked out for its exceptionally good roots that will only improve. tree has a good, solid trunk. i like the branch structure on this one, still very raw, but i see a very natural image down the line 20190320_204135 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr 20190320_160818 by...
or broom. these type of approaches arent for everyone though....
i would also likely take a pair of knob cutters to the nebari and balance it out, resulting in a nice, even flare, again not for everyone.
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i know sergio well
it's a joke he's aware of
i swap accounts every couple of weeks and come up names that are often inside jokes with other members
thanks for inquiring
AlainK
Imperial Masterpiece
To me, one major cut is obvious :
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Omono
Heh. I certainly didn’t mean it in a derogatory manner, though I can see how it may have come across that way. I just meant that it doesn’t conform to the usual standards of desirability in a JM bonsai. I’d love to have this tree, just to add. It’s got character in spades so when it does win I’ll be happy to accept the dedication!
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
most will only see left branch, right branch, single apex but opening the mind a bit more will give you far more options to create trees will feeling
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AlainK
Imperial Masterpiece
AlainK
Imperial Masterpiece
Like, on the last photo in your message :
There's a trunk line which is interesting (1) and a sort of second trunk, or branch (2), which is bigger than the first one. It's either you choose one of them or the second one has to go.
To me, number two has to go. It will leave a big scar, but 1st, it's at the back so it can stay hidden, 2 : if properly done and if the tree is well cultivated, the wound will disappear in 3 to 5 years. As it is, it's unbalanced, awkward.
Of course, one could always carve it, make a lot of deadwood, but I don't like trying to make a bonsai look like a dying tree. The kind of easy trick I don't fancy at all.
There are other ways of making it a "bonsai" than making it look sick.
There's a trunk line which is interesting (1) and a sort of second trunk, or branch (2), which is bigger than the first one. It's either you choose one of them or the second one has to go.
To me, number two has to go. It will leave a big scar, but 1st, it's at the back so it can stay hidden, 2 : if properly done and if the tree is well cultivated, the wound will disappear in 3 to 5 years. As it is, it's unbalanced, awkward.
Of course, one could always carve it, make a lot of deadwood, but I don't like trying to make a bonsai look like a dying tree. The kind of easy trick I don't fancy at all.
There are other ways of making it a "bonsai" than making it look sick.
KiwiPlantGuy
Omono
Hi,
Great tree and gives me confidence I am not totally wasting my time with my Coral bark Maple.
My take on the root graft scenario is that the AP seedling/cuttings would look weird with the different colour. So if you still have all the cut bits intact or on the compost, you can try some hardwood cuttings with wound and 1%IBA, outside ok. If that doesn’t get results then your trimmings around summer solstice with same size (6-8 inch length plus 1%IBA and mist with Summer etc) will definitely work.
Hope this is helpful.
Charles
BobbyLane
Imperial Masterpiece
you would of destroyed a very good tree by trying to conform it into your one tracked ideas of what a tree should look like...im versatile, so i can appreciate when different approaches are required
here you see both approaches, both look natural and appear as if the trees grew this way all by themselves.it isnt a one size fits all.
the op is trying to confirm his tree to fit a certain pattern therefore it will be very difficult to eradicate the unsightly bulges.
here you see both approaches, both look natural and appear as if the trees grew this way all by themselves.it isnt a one size fits all.
the op is trying to confirm his tree to fit a certain pattern therefore it will be very difficult to eradicate the unsightly bulges.
Palltergeist
Seedling
isn't this itself a style?
lots of rhetoric in your posts
at this stage, we are looking at the base of the trunk, with a nebari that needs work, and this tree still has the potential to fit any style/aesthetic. the OP s discussing long-term development-stage techniques and a long-term plan...
shakotan710
Yamadori
Charles,
Thanks for the response! I'll try the method with the trimmings this summer. I'm thinking the same thing with bark and color differences, I'd rather play it safe.
shakotan710
Yamadori
Thank you Sorce,
I'll work on reducing more branches when I have some time, I would prefer NOT to take the really long term approach haha.
I definitely need to stay on top of bud rubbing this spring, letting them go this past year was not the greatest idea.
shakotan710
Yamadori
Alain,
That was the main branch in question, thanks for the suggestion. It'll be removed by the summer. I'm contemplating an air-layer on it since there is some girth to it.
Grow box could be a good idea to get the additional nebari I want. I don't think I would want something as strong as what those pictures suggest but I get what you're saying. Especially since the nebari that already exists reminds me of that style.
a V cut may help here to reduce some bulk, i know most would wince at the thought of doing this to a maple though
taking a saw and dremel to a maple is forbidden in most parts of the world, but not in my garden...
Acer Katsura project#1
From a nursery tree. again this one picked out for its exceptionally good roots that will only improve. tree has a good, solid trunk. i like the branch structure on this one, still very raw, but i see a very natural image down the line 20190320_204135 by Bobby Lane, on Flickr 20190320_160818 by...
or broom. these type of approaches arent for everyone though....
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i would also likely take a pair of knob cutters to the nebari and balance it out, resulting in a nice, even flare, again not for everyone.
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Interesting ideas, however, I think that the V-cut would accentuate the bulge and could make the taper look worse.
The nebari is one of the interesting features of this tree and I would prefer not to get rid of it. I think it gives the tree age and additional character (with grafts it could look outstanding in the far future. But I still think that these suggestions are worthwhile and will be useful to look back on when the tree progresses.
sorce
Nonsense Rascal
Meh, seeing it healthy is worth losing a couple design points.
Nothing is lost yet.
Sorce
Orion_metalhead
Masterpiece
I feel a grow box would be a bad idea. If the goal is to reduce the appearance of rhe bulbous aspects and fix roots, why grow box it now? I would get some grafts started now, allow them to take and then once you have them started, move to grow box down the line. You need to fix the structure in the top of the tree before allowing more uncontrolled thickening and growth.
shakotan710
Yamadori
Spring flush! I'll try to get more photos as the leaves develop.
Plans have changed slightly for this tree and will give updates once the new design is confirmed.
Plans have changed slightly for this tree and will give updates once the new design is confirmed.
MHBonsai
Chumono
Really interesting tree. I like it. The one thing that caught my eye that I was curios about is how to deal with this wound that looks like it's rotting through. Could it be filled with epoxy to get it to roll over and seal eventually?
