M. Frary
Bonsai Godzilla
When Ryan Kneels.Yeah, when it hardens off.
When Ryan Kneels.Yeah, when it hardens off.
I wonder if he has removed his two "side shoots"?Yeah, when it hardens off.
If the elongation last longer than four hours seek medical attention!Only after a period of "elongation"
The berries?I wonder if he has removed his two "side shoots"?
Or hang a hat on it.If the elongation last longer than four hours seek medical attention!
I, being a nerd, would rather have data, meaning actual measurements of stem thicknesses through the season of cleaned stems versus uncleaned ones with the node count of each recorded. A total of 8 trees, 4 in each treatment might be sufficient.Does anyone have a great trident bonsai that shows what has been done to make it better and the results of their argumentative statements.
I, being a nerd, would rather have data, meaning actual measurements of stem thicknesses through the season of cleaned stems versus uncleaned ones with the node count of each recorded. A total of 8 trees, 4 in each treatment might be sufficient.
One data point does not make a trend.
I, being a nerd, would rather have data, meaning actual measurements of stem thicknesses through the season of cleaned stems versus uncleaned ones with the node count of each recorded. A total of 8 trees, 4 in each treatment might be sufficient.
One data point does not make a trend.
Mysticism = the way = tao?Depending on others data is a lazy and inefficient way of developing bonsai. Developing bonsai depends so much on logistics, growing season, husbandry, and a devotion to the hobby. Lacking in any of those points will never make good trees. Developing ones own techniques based on location is "the way" period.
Mysticism = the way = tao?
We aren't talking about aesthetics. We are not debating whether Peter makes beautiful trees or not. He does.
We are arguing about a readily measurable claim that eliminating side shoots from a sacrifice slows/hastens the rate of thickening.
Now, everybody do it (make measurements and show your work) in their own location and until you have data STFU.
SAD.
Okay.You are missing the point. Peter Tea is the subject of this thread and Peter does not grow bonsai, he buys them. If you want trunk and branch building techniques you have to go to a source that does that sort of thing. Trunk and branch building per se is not done by the lengthening of shoots but by the energy in the shoot and what it does in the bottom two inches of connection from where the shoot emits. Keeping side branches or removing does nothing in the process of that action. The act of growing does. I can say that because I work on almost maple bonsai exclusively now days. I know cause I do it daily and I do have the data. Removal or keeping branches has no significant action to creating girth in the base of a branch. We don't build beautiful branches by elongation, we build them by creating segments and each segment increases in size due to the elongation of the leader. The length of the leader does not build a better branch by allowing it to grow longer, especially in maples. In fact elongation after about 4 inches from its point of connection is the only part that increases in size as it elongates. the elongation as it grows longer just stays the same with no noticable increase in girth.
On maples the way to build girth faster is to wire down the branches horizontal and wire the tip up. The horizontal part will increase dramaticaly faster than a vertical shoot.
I agree with you.mmm this is going nowhere, i can only be happy to have been curious enough to try something counterintuitive on some of my trees, and to be rewarded with improvements i could not have hope for by just letting them grow freely, from what i observed the previous when i did not know of this technique. And i'm just a small hobbyist, i have nothing to sale or gain. Just do your own experiments and have fun, i just can't understand the amount of people so vehemently refusing to shake a little their certitudes to maybe learn something new while that's exactly what make this hobby so attractive to me, you never stop to learn.
Anthony, Peter wrote his blog while he was an apprentice in Japan. While I cannot be absolutely sure of his intentions, I know him well enough to surmise a couple of ideas of his motivation.As always Al, the truth. Thank you.
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Anthony
Seems like it has thickened a hell of a lot faster than Peter Tea's 2 metre long branches which look like a similar thickness to your palmatum branch. How anyone can hold that it won't thicken faster if you leave more on is beyond me. But maybe I'm just going insane?Okay.
Here's a comic book for you read.
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thread graft started 4 Mar 2016
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A bit more than 5 months later, on 29 Sep 2016 (branch on the left is the spring thread graft)
What has happened is clearer a year later (6 Dec 2017)
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